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Postby (longhouse) » Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:05 pm

It did not go unnoticed that you even have a 360F on your PC monitor.
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Postby (8mileshigh) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:58 am

That's a very nice wall you have there John! I hope you're not in an earthquake zone!
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Postby (admin) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:32 am

Nor the page you are looking at John. Fantastic guitar.
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Postby (jingle_jangle) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:12 am

I did (as part of my never-ending Rickenbacker education) some online research on the Crockenbackers. Piers Crocker is the creator. From what I can glean, he is a luthier in Oz, who repairs You Am I's instruments. Tim Rogers, who was a confirmed Tele player, was at Piers' studio, saw one of the Crockenbackers hanging on the wall, and asked if it was for sale. Piers sold it to him, and also another.

Sorry if this is common knowledge to anyone; but I did think that for those of us who didn't know, it might start a bit of knoweldge-sharing on this topic.

Can anybody add to this, please?
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Postby (longhouse) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:11 am

Piers has only made a few of these instruments (it's not his sole profession). It's hard to pour salt on his tail...

He is however a true lover of guitars.
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Postby (longhouse) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:12 am

You can see and hear them in 'Dirty Deeds' -a fine, fine film featuring John Goodman. Set in the late 60s, of course.

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Postby (jingle_jangle) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:24 am

I just sent Piers an e-mail, and will await a reply. He is apparently quite the guitar historian as well as a superb luthier. He also builds Selmer-Maccaferri replicas, and has built acoustics and a viola-style bass for You Am I's bass player.

He has built five Crockenbackers, of which Tim owns four. I've seen three of the four now. (the third is a black replica 360F). But the pickguard still looks wrong to me...Piers is supposed to be excellent on research, so we'll see what he has to say about that and the Gretsch tailpiece. Probably something like, "so what?"

You mention this as his second profession: Is he the same Piers Crocker who is the well-regarded archaeologist?

And, Noel, I'm gonna rent "Dirty Deeds."
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Postby (86kubicki) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:11 am

I'm surprised that no one has raised the copyright infringement issue regarding these copies. I guess I've just raised it!
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Postby (bails) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:11 pm

Piers also put the headstock back on my '66 Rose, Morris 1998(before I owned it), and signed the control cavity for the repair. Great work, but why, oh why, oh why would anyone overspray the repair area with FireGlo, so it looks brand spangly, when the rest of the guitar is completely original, and looks like it's 39 years old?! Instead of just "professionally repaired headstock", I have to add "...with professional overspray to repair" to it's description. The repair itself is perfect, not even a bump.
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Postby (jingle_jangle) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:17 pm

Interesting...to each his own, I guess. Everybody has his/her own preferences. If it were me, I'd ask the owner how he'd like to see it.
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Postby (bails) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:40 pm

"I'd ask the owner how he'd like to see it."

This probably is the way the previous owner liked to see it. It's just a shame, because it looks so ridiculous. The rest of the guitar is well worn, with bare wood on the back of the neck, and top of body, like it's been played for all 39 of it's years, then it has this shiny new section of finish on the back of the headstock, that looks like it just came from the showroom.
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Postby (jingle_jangle) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:47 pm

Yeah, Mark too bad...seems like this is a real irritation to you. I know it would be to me, and probably a majority of the people who read this, too.

Did you brace him about it? What did he say? Is it possible to return it and have him "age" it for you?
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Postby (jsm610) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:17 pm

Here is a picture of the black 360F Crockenbacker, actually a 12 string, and also a shot from 'Dirty Deeds".

Paul: keep us updated on any response from Piers!

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Postby (jingle_jangle) » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:32 pm

Cool. I still think he's got the pick guards wrong on 'em...

They are quite large, aren't they? I'll be sure to let you know if and when I hear from Piers!
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Re: You Am I - Crockenbacker 360Fs

Postby (headbanger) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:48 pm

I think as far as the Gretch tailpiece goes it's what you can find down gere. Just how many long F type trapiezes are out there?

He sure gives them a hiding.

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