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You Am I - Crockenbacker 360Fs
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:42 am
by jsm610
Tim's Crockenbacker 360F's (2 of 4 that he has).
Good copies, never seen a replica of these before:
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:59 am
by jingle_jangle
Here are some photos of a gennie 360F for comparison:
I was fooled at first glance, but John clued me in. You can spot some differences: Tailpiece, pickguard, missing catseye sound holes. Also, the binding on Tim's guitars seems a bit thick?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:52 am
by lastbroadcast
Is that a Gretsch tailpiece on the red guitar?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:55 am
by jingle_jangle
Yup. Good catch.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:36 am
by ozover50
If they are Replibackers (and it seems the lack of the catseye sound hole is the most glaring thing) then they're not the first 'shonkies' over here - heard of Christopher Skase, Alan Bond, John Elliott??
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:42 am
by jsm610
I'm not sure that is the best reference Paul -> I'm fairly certain that is the prototype and has a few features that are unique and not found on the 'regular' 360Fs - the long soundhole for example....
Here are some pictures of his Crockenbacker 12:
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:47 am
by jsm610
Here are some more pictures of the 'red' Crockenbacker. It certainly has a soundhole... :
What gives it away:
- The headstock is too long and the wrong shape.
- The inlays are 'wrong'
- The angle of the headstock is 'wrong', you can see it in the shot of the back of the headstock.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:08 pm
by jsm610
For those that can't find the soundhole on the red one:
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:17 pm
by jingle_jangle
Yep, John, you're right again. Proportionally, the red one looks like a Gretsch, but with strange detailing. Wonder who built 'em?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:35 pm
by longhouse
Piers Crocker
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:44 pm
by jsm610
The 6-strigns look right to me. If I hadn't noticed that they were mono and that they didn't have the right TRC I wouldn't have thought twice. The 12 strings have the wrong headstock style of course - wonder where he got the tailpiece on that?
I assume this one isn't fake:
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:19 pm
by Scastles
Think the pic you posted is the real deal, John. The checkered binding and the seam white color seems to fit the bill
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:25 pm
by jwilli
Yeah, that one is real. Quit rubbing it in!
BTW: Prior to Mid '60, they had single jackplates.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:37 pm
by jsm610
"Quit rubbing it in!
"
That wasn't rubbing it in, I was just posting a photo...
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:03 pm
by longhouse
THAT is rubbing it in!
John Hall, you're my only hope... bring back the 360F. I promise I'll buy one.
360F in blueburst - mmmmmmm
=Noel=