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dpowell wrote:Probably an American model.
Virtually all 325s came with f-holes, right up until the late '70s or early '80s I believe.
trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose Morris models ...
trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models - and that means only that they - just like all other genuine Rickenbackers - are build in California, USA - but with some details added with particularly appeal to British and European players (in the 60s...).
Matt Clark wrote:trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models - and that means only that they - just like all other genuine Rickenbackers - are build in California, USA - but with some details added with particularly appeal to British and European players (in the 60s...).
OK, I had a 1964 310 fireglo with an f-hole, what Rose Morris model was that, as I have never heard of it?
And. should I hang myself now for selling it back in the 80s if a 325 is worth 20k-ish?
trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models
dpowell wrote:trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models
Not true. US-made 310s and 320s and the aforementioned S models had f-holes too.
And an RM 325 is called a 1996, not a 1966...
trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models - and that means only that they - just like all other genuine Rickenbackers in - are build in California, USA - but with some details added with particularly appeal to British and European players (in the 60s...).
collin wrote:trosse wrote:All Rickenbackers with an F-hole are Rose-Morris models - and that means only that they - just like all other genuine Rickenbackers in - are build in California, USA - but with some details added with particularly appeal to British and European players (in the 60s...).
I think you missed our point, Troels.
Of course Rics are all made in the US
Of course the Rose Morris models have different names-----this is all widely known information, especially here.
What we're saying (to bring it back to point) is that John Fogarty's 325 is a standard American Market Rickenbacker 325, and not a Rose Morris.
He never bought it in the UK---Rose Morris ltd never touched the guitar....it's not a Rose Morris by pure definition, hence the use of the "S" designation on Rose Morris spec guitars that never passed through their hands.
Besides, an f-hole was standard issue on the 325 model, so technically it's not even a 325S....just a standard issue garden-variety 325.
trosse wrote:
I've checked with the litterature - and don't see anywhere that 325's for homemarket should have had f-holes.
F-holes was a Rickenbackers idea - not Rose, Morris' - as they believed f-holes better suited the European market.
That said f-holdes in 325 were not exactly a standard issue as standard for 325's was no f-holes at all - as per Lennons two first well known 325's.
Lennons 325/12 on the other hand had an F-hole and a fireglo finish
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