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Even with those new-fangled TR nuts you still have to adjust the neck the way you normally do with the old style rods. These new-fangled nuts so not preclude the need for that. Also, you should have stainless steel washers between the nuts and the thrust block; all you're doing tight now, as you have found out, is to dig out the aluminum under the nuts.akpasta wrote:Hi Folks,
I've got a 1986 360/12 with TI Flats and I'm doing a set-up on the guitar.
When I purchased the guitar I couldn't set it up because it had the old-style truss rod adjusters, and I couldn't get a socket over them. So I took it to a shop and they installed these aftermarket hex sockets that can be much more easily turned via allen wrench.
photo of original nuts -
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JvhoKnRpi01AmhLw973L18vuSCVT8EAe
photos of new adjutment nuts you'll see something wrong right away but read on to find out...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10gkcGl_wv1BOKJsZPttfJLWN4tBbJ5N- and
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J4GrKh73Vxeq20N0f2UoUS8f41A1_4N2
Now I want to do a full set up because I was not happy with the set up the shop did, and I like to do things for myself anyways, esp with a Rick, to get it playing just the way I want it. So I loosened the truss rod adjusters until there was no tension and I could almost turn them by hand. Then I started tightening them evenly.
I'm measuring neck relief by fretting the 1st fret with a capo, fretting the last fret with my finger, and slipping a feeler gauge between the low E strings and the 7th, 8th, and 9th frets. I'd like to try somewhere in the .004" to .006" range based on what I've read online from other Rick owners. Currently I'm pretty close to .006" and it's playing WAY better. I'd like to try more, but I'm afraid to tighten the rods any further, because the adjuster nuts that the shop installed appear to be digging into the truss rod block and grinding aluminum out. This does not seem right at all... you can see from the photos linked above.
My first thought, is, perhaps I've fully adjusted the rods. I did all these adjustments yesterday and did not give the neck much time to settle, but now, 12 hours later, the neck hasn't changed at all, so it seems "settled" to me.
What is causing this and what should I do about it?
Thanks!
jps wrote:Even with those new-fangled TR nuts you still have to adjust the neck the way you normally do with the old style rods. These new-fangled nuts so not preclude the need for that. Also, you should have stainless steel washers between the nuts and the thrust block; all you're doing tight now, as you have found out, is to dig out the aluminum under the nuts.
Do more research on how to adjust the old-style hairpin rods, there's a lot of good information out there to find. In the meantime, I'd suggest removing the strings and backing off the rod nuts to loosen everything, otherwise, you just might find the end of the fingerboard go pop (separate from the neck).
collin wrote:...That sturdy block is helpful, but as pointed out before, that only helps one half of the equation.
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