Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:32 pm
I disagree. I think the flat poles sound great!
+10000000000000!billydlight wrote:I disagree. I think the flat poles sound great!
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Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:55 pm
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:13 am
I can tell you that my '67 360 has a short-pole neck pickup, and a long-pole on the bridge. From day one I thought this was the norm, reasoning that the longer magnets on the bridge PU were intended to help equalize the volume between the bridge and neck PUs. Not until these very helpful online forums came to be did I learn that this was yet another "Rickanomaly". Is there no end to these inconsistencies from Santa Ana? A part of me hopes there isn't - keeps things interesting!apossibleworld wrote:Interesting. What I'm really curious about is the change that occurred in the mid 60s, when they made the poles shorter on the underside of the neck pickup, so that they don't have to route the body in a weak point. That's why some of the earlier 60s guitars have bad neck angles, because of that structural weakness -- they've collapsed over time. And yet the earlier pickups supposedly sound better, which is what the original post was asking about. Anybody know exactly when that change occurred?
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Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:03 am
I never said otherwise! They're all classic sounds.billydlight wrote:I disagree. I think the flat poles sound great!
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:14 am
More reading and possibly insight here...
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Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:07 pm
Thanks for posting those links. I did a search and didn't get those. Very informative.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:06 pm
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:44 pm
Between May and August of 66.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:22 am
Someone earlier in this thread cited a guitar with 2 long pole pups in June '66. My 360/12 was built August '66 and has a short pole neck pup. That narrows it down a bit more.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 12:54 am
I am going to reiterate this:jps wrote:+10000000000000!billydlight wrote:I disagree. I think the flat poles sound great!
Short pole toasters sound amazing in the neck position on basses.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:16 pm
(sigh) And the short pole tone with the same number of windings is exactly what I like in a neck pickup, also, in both guitar and bass.sys700 wrote:I recently sold a late 66 short pole pickup 12-string for this very reason. The long pole pickups sound more aggressive and louder.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:41 pm
Here is a recording of a short pole toaster wound to 3.598 KΩ, in the neck position on a 4004L.
Stock RIC strings, played with a pick, not too aggressively. 4004L SPC > Strymon Flint > Radial ProD2 > Marantz PMD661.
Stock RIC strings, played with a pick, not too aggressively. 4004L SPC > Strymon Flint > Radial ProD2 > Marantz PMD661.
Re: Vintage Pickups: Long pole? Short pole? None?
Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:33 pm
Very nice recording. Sounds great!