450/12 Question

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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:51 pm

:idea:

Paint the binding on! From 10 paces it will look great.
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (chronictown) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:47 am

Well...the stripe would have to go down the middle of the sides, in between the front and back body edge contours of a 450 (versus the flat front edge of a 460). Kinda like converting a 4003s into a 4003. But what the hell, it would make for a unique look!! :D
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (studiotwosession) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:21 pm

I have one of the first 450 12s (think JB's played it, too.. commented how flat the peg head is.) It was played a lot over the years. Has the seldom seen 64 12 tuners. Had a re-fret and new nut made (definitely needed both.) I'd like to pickup another one just to compare it to. I think it was better before I had all the work done, though one of the strings was constantly popping out and yes, the frets were toast.
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:01 am

studiotwosession wrote:I have one of the first 450 12s (think JB's played it, too.. commented how flat the peg head is.) It was played a lot over the years. Has the seldom seen 64 12 tuners. Had a re-fret and new nut made (definitely needed both.) I'd like to pickup another one just to compare it to. I think it was better before I had all the work done, though one of the strings was constantly popping out and yes, the frets were toast.


What are "64 12" tuners? Single line Klusons with white/cream buttons?
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:03 am

studiotwosession wrote:I have one of the first 450 12s (think JB's played it, too.. commented how flat the peg head is.) It was played a lot over the years. Has the seldom seen 64 12 tuners. Had a re-fret and new nut made (definitely needed both.) I'd like to pickup another one just to compare it to. I think it was better before I had all the work done, though one of the strings was constantly popping out and yes, the frets were toast.


Oh yeah! I think what happened was that the headstock had pitched forward over the years and that it appeared "flat". That's why the string was popping out of the nut, I'm sure.

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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (collin) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:50 pm

Yeah, that's a rare one but I've experienced the headstock thing a couple of times. People put really fat strings on these guitars years ago and the headstock starts creeping forward until it starts looking like a Fender profile with no backwards angle. :shock:

Sometimes it affects playing and sometimes, oddly, it does not.
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (chronictown) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:31 am

jdogric12 wrote:
studiotwosession wrote:I have one of the first 450 12s (think JB's played it, too.. commented how flat the peg head is.) It was played a lot over the years. Has the seldom seen 64 12 tuners. Had a re-fret and new nut made (definitely needed both.) I'd like to pickup another one just to compare it to. I think it was better before I had all the work done, though one of the strings was constantly popping out and yes, the frets were toast.


What are "64 12" tuners? Single line Klusons with white/cream buttons?


Those are the open back tuners similar to John S.'s '64 360/12...not sure if they're Kluson or what, though. Carl Wilson's new-style 360/12 also had them.
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:53 pm

Are they Grover Sta-tites?
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:18 pm

Well, I should update this thread. I didn't get a 450/12, but this 1980 620/12 with full Mark Arnquist mods fell into my lap for an insanely low price and I couldn't say no. It is a total "pro" instrument all the way - one of the best Rick 12's I've ever played!

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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (chronictown) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:06 am

Sweet 8) Congrats John!
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:50 am

I like that one knob. Kind of reminds me of a pirate's eye patch. ARRRR!!!
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (admin) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:32 am

Love the 620/12. :)
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:24 pm

And I believe this is the second 1980 620/12 JG you've owned, right JB? :twisted:
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:28 pm

jdogric12 wrote:And I believe this is the second 1980 620/12 JG you've owned, right JB? :twisted:


For some reason I think that one was an '82? Do you have the serial written down anywhere?

I remember barely being able to play that one because of the nut width!
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Re: 450/12 Question

Postby (jdogric12) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:00 pm

Matt still owns it. I'll ask him. Pretty sure it's 80 though for some reason.
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