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Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:42 pm
by danoadam
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:12 pm
by collin
Neat little guitar.
Even in mint condition, these aren't particularly valuable guitars (mostly because of the incredibly short scale, and it's the Ryder student line and not a Rickenbacker). With the modifications, $800-$900 is probably more realistic.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:52 am
by johnhall
collin wrote:. . . .and it's the Ryder student line and not a Rickenbacker). . . . .
No such thing. Ryder's were Electros, just rebranded with the music school's logo. They were sold by the school as as kit- guitar, amp, music lessons.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:05 pm
by jdogric12
The OP photos clearly show an Electro TRC. How did Ryder get mixed up in this? Didn't Ryders have a Ryder TRC?
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:13 pm
by libratune
Of the 32 ES-16 models listed in the Register, about 25 have headstock photos, of which 5 have the "Ryder" TRC.
- Pre-1965 Electro
- 1965 Electro
- Ryder
As to the OP's request for a value estimate, I would put this piece in the $500 range given the numerous mods. Fully intact ES-16s have sold in the $900 range.
jdogric12 wrote:The OP photos clearly show an Electro TRC. How did Ryder get mixed up in this? Didn't Ryders have a Ryder TRC?
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:40 pm
by rkbsound
That's one cool guitar - just buy it to have fun with it! When you're done, trade it out for something else that's cool! "Cool" guitars are hard to come by.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:10 pm
by jdogric12
I forget, have we ever seen a Contello TRC?
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:34 pm
by collin
johnhall wrote:collin wrote:. . . .and it's the Ryder student line and not a Rickenbacker). . . . .
No such thing. Ryder's were Electros, just rebranded with the music school's logo. They were sold by the school as as kit- guitar, amp, music lessons.
Thanks for the clarification, John.
Out of curiosity - is it the same story for the Symphonia Grand instruments?
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:36 pm
by collin
jdogric12 wrote:The OP photos clearly show an Electro TRC. How did Ryder get mixed up in this? Didn't Ryders have a Ryder TRC?
I saw the thread, clearly read Electro... then wrote Ryder in my post. Go figure..
Maybe I subconsciously knew that many of the ES-16s I've seen in the past were badged Ryder.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 pm
by jps
collin wrote:jdogric12 wrote:The OP photos clearly show an Electro TRC. How did Ryder get mixed up in this? Didn't Ryders have a Ryder TRC?
I saw the thread, clearly read Electro... then wrote Ryder in my post. Go figure...
Must be an age thing.
That happens more and more frequently as one gets older.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:26 am
by jdogric12
collin wrote:jdogric12 wrote:The OP photos clearly show an Electro TRC. How did Ryder get mixed up in this? Didn't Ryders have a Ryder TRC?
I saw the thread, clearly read Electro... then wrote Ryder in my post. Go figure..
Maybe I subconsciously knew that many of the ES-16s I've seen in the past were badged Ryder.
You're not crazy - the thread is titled "Ryder!"
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:12 pm
by collin
Update, Adam has the guitar on San Diego craiglist.
Not a bad deal at $700, that's definitely an affordable entry point into vintage guitars!
https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/msg ... 62099.html
p.s. Jdog, you're absolutely right. It's in the thread title! Glad I'm not losing my mind.
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:45 pm
by abluesky
I owned a 60' version of this guitar and, to this day, I continue to kick myself for selling it. Of all the 3/4 sized guitars I've owned, it was the best sounding and overall feel, great neck too. Mine was a thicker version, no tapered edge.
Good luck!
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:34 pm
by jps
abluesky wrote:I owned a 60' version of this guitar...
Did you have to go up to the penthouse level to tune the guitar?
Re: Ryder ES16 evaluation
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:40 pm
by abluesky
1960 that is....