Azureglo Question

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:48 pm

Hey Paul, I think I remember this correctly, but did Mr. Hall say the original AZ came from a VW paint color. I did some looking on the net today and the closest I came was VW paint code L633- also called VW blue. It was used from 1966-1969. If this is correct, how does your formulation differ if at all? Nice work so far on Mr. Combs 67 by the way.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:28 pm

The formula I use is a VW formula from 1964. I'm not sure of their code--#L360 Sea Blue, perhaps?.I just have the 5-digit mixing code and the formula. I do not use it as formulated, anyway. I darken it slightly with a blend of three colors, to get an exact match to the Rick color.

4003 · Post by **4003** » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:11 pm

Whatever it is, I know I will love it!

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:01 am

Found this paint chip for VW Blue, it's pretty close.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:13 am

Not even close, Mark.

The dangers of matching colors on computer monitors are well-known by design professionals.

Bill's guitar is, in life, a couple of shades lighter and a tad greener than the picture above looks on my Apple monitor. My Windows monitor has the lightness closer, but is still off on the hue. Neither is color-certified.

L633 is much darker and bluer than Azureglo. Here it is somewhere between a Navy and a Cerulean Blue.

But color names are meaningless, as they do not represent standardized formulas.

At any rate, L633 is for too late a model VW. It's a '64 color. And, referring to my mixing directions, Sea Blue is correct.

Interestingly, VW had a color called "Azure", back in '54. But it's too light and too blue!

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:14 am

I thought the color that came from a VW was Mid Blue.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:38 am

I have not seen anything on this. And, of which of the myriad Mid-blues are we talking?

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:09 pm

The first one. I recall JH telling me (at NAMM '06) that the current Mid-Blue harkens back to the original color, the idea of which came when someone observed it on a VW that was parked near the shop in the 60s, and that between the current version and then it had changed over the years. For whatever reason, I assume most of the blue Ricks I saw in the 70s and beyond were Azureglo. But I'm probably wrong.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:36 pm

Your absolutely right about the perceived match Paul, as this overlay shows(thanks jpeg wiz). That's why people like you paint guitars for people like me.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:12 pm

I believe that story about the VW was tied to Azureglo, not Mid Blue, Glenn...

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:19 pm

10-4. Which color goes back farther?

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:19 pm

The VW Variant blue was the match for the Azureglo. Midnight was just selected to be reminiscent of Azureglo but a bit livelier.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:37 pm

So Azureglo would go back farther.

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:47 pm

I hope so! Otherwise, I gotta go look up reminiscent!

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:30 am

No wonder I like all the blue Ricks that I've seen (blueburst as well.)