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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:09 am
by Korladis
ilan wrote:Looks like Rickenbacker are going through their own Henry J era right now.
What?

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that other people don't.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:03 am
by aceonbass
Seriously! I don't care for the bass either, but at least RIC is trying new things. Guess some would rather see them languish in the 60's.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:53 am
by bassduke49
aceonbass wrote:Seriously! I don't care for the bass either, but at least RIC is trying new things. Guess some would rather see them languish in the 60's.
I no longer languish in the 60s. I now languish in the 70s! :wink:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 11:47 am
by henry5
I don’t envy Ric. They get so much flack on forums (not so much this one) for not updating their designs, and yet whenever they introduce something else, eg 4004, no one is interested. :wink:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:44 pm
by jps
bassduke49 wrote:
I no longer languish in the 60s. I now languish in the 70s! :wink:
So, how are the '70s? :mrgreen:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:35 pm
by ram
jps wrote: So, how are the '70s? :mrgreen:
from what I remember not tooo bad at all!

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:16 pm
by jps
ram wrote:
jps wrote: So, how are the '70s? :mrgreen:
from what I remember not tooo bad at all!
Are you that old, too? :mrgreen:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:46 pm
by bassduke49
jps wrote:
bassduke49 wrote:
I no longer languish in the 60s. I now languish in the 70s! :wink:
So, how are the '70s? :mrgreen:

Well, six weeks in, it isn't worse than the 60s. But 69 was NOT fine! :shock:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:41 pm
by cassius987
I have a deposit on one via Wildwood - expecting it this fall.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:57 am
by jps
bassduke49 wrote:
jps wrote:
bassduke49 wrote:
I no longer languish in the 60s. I now languish in the 70s! :wink:
So, how are the '70s? :mrgreen:

Well, six weeks in, it isn't worse than the 60s. But 69 was NOT fine! :shock:
So, when I get up there I should skip 69, you're sating?

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:57 am
by callofcthulhu
jps wrote:So, when I get up there I should skip 69, you're sating?
That really sounds like a decision you and your wife should make together.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:14 am
by jps
callofcthulhu wrote:
jps wrote:So, when I get up there I should skip 69, you're sating?
That really sounds like a decision you and your wife should make together.
:mrgreen:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 am
by cassius987
I did a rough comparison of the pickup spacing on this bass compared to a 4003, a 4002 and a Jazz Bass. I just drew vector art over photos I pulled from the net and compared the length from nut to bridge to the length from nut to center of pickup, so these are surely not perfect numbers.

4003: 74-75% (neck), 87.5% (bridge) [aren't these both octave positions? neat]
4002: 82.5% (neck), 93% (bridge)
Jazz Bass: 81% (neck), 92% (bridge)
4003AC: 81% (neck), 91% (bridge)

Limitations: I could have chosen bad representative photos, especially if the camera lens was angled a bit. But I still think the results are likely to be accurate if not precise. As most of us could tell just by looking, the 4003AC looks a lot like a 4002 or Jazz Bass in pickup spacing. I'm excited to hear it.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:06 am
by cjj
Ah, memories of the old pickup spacing thread. I've still got that data somewhere. Would be interesting to get some actual measurements...

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:21 am
by jps
Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?