Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (cjj) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:46 pm

jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?

Micro-cubits is probably unnecessary. Making the measurement in nanoquacksters would be good enough...
I have NO idea what to do with those skinny stringed things... I'm just a bass player...
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (iiipopes) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:10 pm

cjj wrote:
jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?

Micro-cubits is probably unnecessary. Making the measurement in nanoquacksters would be good enough...

I measure in picolams myself, for ultimate, um...er...what are we measuring? :mrgreen:
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (Isaac) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:35 pm

cassius987 wrote:I did a rough comparison of the pickup spacing on this bass compared to a 4003, a 4002 and a Jazz Bass. I just drew vector art over photos I pulled from the net and compared the length from nut to bridge to the length from nut to center of pickup, so these are surely not perfect numbers.

4003: 74-75% (neck), 87.5% (bridge) [aren't these both octave positions? neat]
4002: 82.5% (neck), 93% (bridge)
Jazz Bass: 81% (neck), 92% (bridge)
4003AC: 81% (neck), 91% (bridge)

Limitations: I could have chosen bad representative photos, especially if the camera lens was angled a bit. But I still think the results are likely to be accurate if not precise. As most of us could tell just by looking, the 4003AC looks a lot like a 4002 or Jazz Bass in pickup spacing. I'm excited to hear it.

Yes, they are. For the open string, the 4001/3 neck pickup is at the fourth harmonic (two octaves up from the fundamental, or first harmonic) and the bridge pickup is at the eighth harmonic, three octaves up.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (Korladis) » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:26 am

jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?

I only accept measurements in Smoots.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (LBx) » Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:29 pm

cassius987 wrote:I'm excited to hear it.

Something to wet yr appetite: https://youtu.be/SszSO7K21Bw
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (cheyenne) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:53 am

Needs more distortion. :roll:
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (cassius987) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:40 am

The tone over the "Dragonaut" riff was pretty spot-on. I am impressed by the neck pickup in particular. But I really want to hear the clean tone too.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (turlu) » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:38 pm

turlu wrote:That bridge!
Me want one! I bet Ric could sell several thousands of those very fast!
The bass is interesting too. I like, but not with the green markers, not my taste.
Hopefully Ric will make those bridges available as a part soon!


I re-read my post and meant that I dont like the Bass, the green markers, the two pickups side by side, all that, except the new bridge design, but still as I mute more and more in my playing style, that would not help much either. Overall, that Bass is not to my taste at all.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (Korladis) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:06 pm

cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:

Why the eyeroll?
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (aceonbass) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:12 am

Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:

Why the eyeroll?

Because there is already so much distortion in his bass playing that it kills any tone the bass may have.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (jps) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:42 am

Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:

Why the eyeroll?

It's an affliction from his mother's side of the family.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (cheyenne) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:21 am

aceonbass wrote:
Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:

Why the eyeroll?

Because there is already so much distortion in his bass playing that it kills any tone the bass may have.


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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (Kiddwad57) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:17 am

The bridge looks good. I'm glad they've kept the mute. It would be nice to see a five string version of it on the 4003s/5. A four string 4003 with that bridge, HB1s in the same 4002 pickup spacing, similar pickguard scheme and good shielding would be a good thing as well.
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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (cassius987) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Kiddwad57 wrote:The bridge looks good. I'm glad they've kept the mute. It would be nice to see a five string version of it on the 4003s/5. A four string 4003 with that bridge, HB1s in the same 4002 pickup spacing, similar pickguard scheme and good shielding would be a good thing as well.


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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Postby (Malchik) » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:07 pm

I'll go back to Rics if they start using that improved intonatable bridge. The two-way truss rod is pretty sweet, too.
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