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Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:46 pm
by cjj
jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?
Micro-cubits is probably unnecessary. Making the measurement in nanoquacksters would be good enough...

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:10 pm
by iiipopes
cjj wrote:
jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?
Micro-cubits is probably unnecessary. Making the measurement in nanoquacksters would be good enough...
I measure in picolams myself, for ultimate, um...er...what are we measuring? :mrgreen:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:35 pm
by Isaac
cassius987 wrote:I did a rough comparison of the pickup spacing on this bass compared to a 4003, a 4002 and a Jazz Bass. I just drew vector art over photos I pulled from the net and compared the length from nut to bridge to the length from nut to center of pickup, so these are surely not perfect numbers.

4003: 74-75% (neck), 87.5% (bridge) [aren't these both octave positions? neat]
4002: 82.5% (neck), 93% (bridge)
Jazz Bass: 81% (neck), 92% (bridge)
4003AC: 81% (neck), 91% (bridge)

Limitations: I could have chosen bad representative photos, especially if the camera lens was angled a bit. But I still think the results are likely to be accurate if not precise. As most of us could tell just by looking, the 4003AC looks a lot like a 4002 or Jazz Bass in pickup spacing. I'm excited to hear it.
Yes, they are. For the open string, the 4001/3 neck pickup is at the fourth harmonic (two octaves up from the fundamental, or first harmonic) and the bridge pickup is at the eighth harmonic, three octaves up.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:26 am
by Korladis
jps wrote:Should the measurements be made between the center of the pickup and, say, the center of the 12th fret, in micro-cubits?
I only accept measurements in Smoots.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:29 pm
by LBx
cassius987 wrote:I'm excited to hear it.
Something to wet yr appetite: https://youtu.be/SszSO7K21Bw

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:53 am
by cheyenne
Needs more distortion. :roll:

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:40 am
by cassius987
The tone over the "Dragonaut" riff was pretty spot-on. I am impressed by the neck pickup in particular. But I really want to hear the clean tone too.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:38 pm
by turlu
turlu wrote:That bridge!
Me want one! I bet Ric could sell several thousands of those very fast!
The bass is interesting too. I like, but not with the green markers, not my taste.
Hopefully Ric will make those bridges available as a part soon!
I re-read my post and meant that I dont like the Bass, the green markers, the two pickups side by side, all that, except the new bridge design, but still as I mute more and more in my playing style, that would not help much either. Overall, that Bass is not to my taste at all.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:06 pm
by Korladis
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:
Why the eyeroll?

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:12 am
by aceonbass
Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:
Why the eyeroll?
Because there is already so much distortion in his bass playing that it kills any tone the bass may have.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:42 am
by jps
Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:
Why the eyeroll?
It's an affliction from his mother's side of the family.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:21 am
by cheyenne
aceonbass wrote:
Korladis wrote:
cheyenne wrote:Needs more distortion. :roll:
Why the eyeroll?
Because there is already so much distortion in his bass playing that it kills any tone the bass may have.
This.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:17 am
by Kiddwad57
The bridge looks good. I'm glad they've kept the mute. It would be nice to see a five string version of it on the 4003s/5. A four string 4003 with that bridge, HB1s in the same 4002 pickup spacing, similar pickguard scheme and good shielding would be a good thing as well.

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:37 pm
by cassius987
Kiddwad57 wrote:The bridge looks good. I'm glad they've kept the mute. It would be nice to see a five string version of it on the 4003s/5. A four string 4003 with that bridge, HB1s in the same 4002 pickup spacing, similar pickguard scheme and good shielding would be a good thing as well.
+1

Re: Introducing the Al Cisneros Signature 4003S

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:07 pm
by Malchik
I'll go back to Rics if they start using that improved intonatable bridge. The two-way truss rod is pretty sweet, too.