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Treble Pickup Surround Screws

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I did a search but didn't find what I was after, so...

I replaced the pickguard on my NOIR with a black Pickguardian unit that I covered with a 3M carbon fiber style decal. I think it looks pretty good. I'm looking to replace the pickguard screws,etc. with black hardware. I was able to find the screw sizes for everything except the treble pickup surround - what I have marked as "C" in the attached pic. Can someone help me out and let me know what size that screw is?

Here's what I have so far:
  • A - Pickguard screw. RIC part 05202, 4 x 3/8"
  • B - Neck Pickup Mounting Screw. RIC part 05112, 4-40 x 1/2"
  • D - Treble Pickup Mounting Screw, RIC part 05106, 10-32 x 1 1/4"
Thanks for any help,

--jack
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Have you looked at McMaster Carr?


Each item in their online catalog has detailed mechanical specifications listed, along with PDF drawings and downloadable CAD files of the parts.
Here's a link to their screw pages.

https://www.mcmaster.com/tapping-screws
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if you've got a good eye the boutique lists what each screw is http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/Miscel ... _c_18.html it would be nice if the parts diagram on RICs site listed these parts or the specs.....


i think it's one of these:
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_623.html
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_634.html
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_635.html
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Forgive me for my simplicity, but couldn't you just apply a little black paint to the heads of the standard screws? :?
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bassduke49 wrote:Forgive me for my simplicity, but couldn't you just apply a little black paint to the heads of the standard screws? :?
Please don't try to interject any common sense here, lol. Yeah, I thought about that, but didn't want to commit in case I don't like the result. I guess I could always try to remove the paint though...

Thanks!

--jack
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radapaw wrote:if you've got a good eye the boutique lists what each screw is http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/Miscel ... _c_18.html it would be nice if the parts diagram on RICs site listed these parts or the specs.....


i think it's one of these:
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_623.html
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_634.html
http://boutique.rickenbacker.com/SCREW- ... p_635.html
I looked in the Boutique, but didn't find anything that I was confident was the right screw. Out of those, my guess would be the first one since I think the surround has a smaller screw than the #4 screws used for the pickguard.

Thanks,

--jack
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sunsetjunk wrote:Have you looked at McMaster Carr?


Each item in their online catalog has detailed mechanical specifications listed, along with PDF drawings and downloadable CAD files of the parts.
Here's a link to their screw pages.

https://www.mcmaster.com/tapping-screws
I'm familiar with McMaster Carr, Grainger, etc. What I don't know though is the size of the screw that I need. I'll probably remove one of them and take it to the local hardware store to see if I can match it.

Thanks,

--jack
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Its a wood screw. (A #3 wood screw to be specific)

RIC part number 05200, I believe.
Its the same screw that RIC specifies for the TRC, Output Jack Plate, and Tuning Machines.

A #3 wood screw - about 3/8" long.
That's the easy part.
The hard part is the Round Head with Phillips drive slot.
And the RIC part has a very distinctive head shape to it.

I've never been able to find them at a local hardware store.
And, if I recall, I had trouble finding them in McMasterCarr.
I ended up using a Fender Tuning Machine screw from All-Parts.
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Guzzitd63 wrote:Its a wood screw. (A #3 wood screw to be specific)

RIC part number 05200, I believe.
Its the same screw that RIC specifies for the TRC, Output Jack Plate, and Tuning Machines.

A #3 wood screw - about 3/8" long.
That's the easy part.
The hard part is the Round Head with Phillips drive slot.
And the RIC part has a very distinctive head shape to it.

I've never been able to find them at a local hardware store.
And, if I recall, I had trouble finding them in McMasterCarr.
I ended up using a Fender Tuning Machine screw from All-Parts.
Perfect, thank you!

--jack
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Guzzitd63 wrote:Its a wood screw. (A #3 wood screw to be specific)

RIC part number 05200, I believe.
Its the same screw that RIC specifies for the TRC, Output Jack Plate, and Tuning Machines.

A #3 wood screw - about 3/8" long.
That's the easy part.
The hard part is the Round Head with Phillips drive slot.
And the RIC part has a very distinctive head shape to it.

I've never been able to find them at a local hardware store.
And, if I recall, I had trouble finding them in McMasterCarr.
I ended up using a Fender Tuning Machine screw from All-Parts.
+1 on Fender tuner screws. I use those too.
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sfuentes wrote:
+1 on Fender tuner screws. I use those too.
Right on ... (and Power to the People.)

The RIC screws are a very odd little critter.
They have a very squared off "round head".
Almost like a really tall PanHead.
But it takes a keen eye to spot the difference.
Did I mention - I'm a machinist by trade?
I do threads 24/7 so ...

In summation ... #3 x .375" wood screw w/ Panhead or Roundhead & Phillips drive.
I'd buy them from POTRs but he doesn't currently list them.
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JackTheRipper wrote: Perfect, thank you!

--jack
You are most certainly welcome Jack.
Happy to be of (any) assistance.

How ya gunna make them black?

*Edit* BTW, Jack - I dig that Bass!
Either with or without the Carbon Fiber.
I appreciate your efforts.
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Guzzitd63 wrote:You are most certainly welcome Jack.
Happy to be of (any) assistance.

How ya gunna make them black?
I hope to find black ones so I don't have to paint them. But will paint them if needed.
Guzzitd63 wrote: *Edit* BTW, Jack - I dig that Bass!
Either with or without the Carbon Fiber.
I appreciate your efforts.
I played it at rehearsal last night and it sounds great. The CF pickguard looks really good on that bass.

Thanks again for your help.

--jack
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My local hardware store has black painted screws in the "decorative" box of the Hillman Fastener drawers. I used the small ones on a black hardware bass project. They look good for a while, but any painted (or anodized) steel fastener will eventually wear through the finish. If you go the Boutique route, buy extras so the repeat postage doesn't eat you alive.
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Gilmourisgod wrote:My local hardware store has black painted screws in the "decorative" box of the Hillman Fastener drawers. I used the small ones on a black hardware bass project. They look good for a while, but any painted (or anodized) steel fastener will eventually wear through the finish. If you go the Boutique route, buy extras so the repeat postage doesn't eat you alive.
Noted.

I called RIC and the man that answered gave me the part number, but they are not available separately (you would have to get the entire surround) from the boutique. So I will check my local hardware store. If that doesn't pan out, I'll just spray paint them black and see how that goes.

Thanks,

--jack
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