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This was from the last tour i was able to attend,(nashville 2008 )and a great show. There was a very definite difference in the sound of this 4003 and Chris' RM. (the RM had the clankity/clarity over this one's hotter sound).

I do believe there is a difference between the 2 basses. Still, with the mids dropped out that much, I doubt you'd hear much difference between the 2!!!

Badanovski wrote:I do believe there is a difference between the 2 basses. Still, with the mids dropped out that much, I doubt you'd hear much difference between the 2!!!

Well,this bass was the muddier one,which was kind of my point....
I also have the dvd this performance was taken from,and the RM sounds clearer than this bass on the tracks where it's used.
As i mentioned,it was quite noticeable in person.

Perhaps Chris used the FOOW bass is that was the sound he wanted for this song at that time and tour? It is definitely darker/warmer, etc. but that may have been deliberate.

The very first time i heard the intro to MM,i thought Yes had lost it and become Black Sabbath. But that only lasted a minute...

woodyng wrote:The very first time i heard the intro to MM,i thought Yes had lost it and become Black Sabbath. But that only lasted a minute...

What's wrong with (early) Black Sabbath? They were one of the first bands I learned bass lines for when I started playing bass.

And, it is a shame how many people I have come across who thought Drama was a terrible album.

jps wrote:

woodyng wrote:The very first time i heard the intro to MM,i thought Yes had lost it and become Black Sabbath. But that only lasted a minute...

What's wrong with (early) Black Sabbath? They were one of the first bands I learned bass lines for when I started playing bass.

And, it is a shame how many people I have come across who thought Drama was a terrible album.

Nothing at all wrong with (early) Sabbath,that first album is great,and still a favorite. But not exactly Yes-like.
I agree that Drama is fantastic,it is easily in my top 3 Yes studio albums.It was just an initial reaction to the guitar intro sound being kind of unusual for Yes Music,or Steve Howe. I felt the same way the very first time i heard the intros to "owner",and "heat of the moment" as well. It was like,"total heaviosity,Man!"

To me this is one of the top Yes tunes to see preformed live! That is where everything comes alive in this tune (no pun intended). I think it sounds better live and just really how it should be appreciated.

jps wrote:

What's wrong with (early) Black Sabbath? They were one of the first bands I learned bass lines for when I started playing bass.
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Me too. And there's of course the Yes connection with Wakeman playing piano and synth on "Sabra Cadabra" on "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" album.
I'm a big fan of their 1973-78 period when they were more experimental and downright proggy. "Never Say Die" is their "Drama". An overlooked and misunderstood album.

I'll have to check that out, Pekka. Bt 1973 I was immersing myself in Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, etc., and pretty must forgot about Black Sabbath!