What kind of guitar player are you?

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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jdogric12) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:58 pm

sloop_john_b wrote:For all you rhythmers, here's a good place to get started. This is the pentatonic scale, first form, in A minor. I start all my students off with this and make them improvise a solo, often in the first or second lesson after I teach it:

E---------------------------------------5--8-----------
B---------------------------------5--8------------------
G--------------------------5--7-------------------------
D-------------------5--7--------------------------------
A-----------5--7----------------------------------------
E----5--8-----------------------------------------------


*pssst* wanna check that string order again? :oops:
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:13 pm

jdogric12aolcom wrote:
sloop_john_b wrote:For all you rhythmers, here's a good place to get started. This is the pentatonic scale, first form, in A minor. I start all my students off with this and make them improvise a solo, often in the first or second lesson after I teach it:

E---------------------------------------5--8-----------
B---------------------------------5--8------------------
G--------------------------5--7-------------------------
D-------------------5--7--------------------------------
A-----------5--7----------------------------------------
E----5--8-----------------------------------------------


*pssst* wanna check that string order again? :oops:


Aw dude, you have the power to edit my posts, you couldn't have just done it quietly? :lol:





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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jdogric12) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:49 am

Oops, sorry, forgot about that. :oops: :oops:


How does it look now??? :lol: :D
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (deaconblues) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:43 pm

I'm mostly a lead player, I guess, but I play by 'feel'...I made up my own hybrid major/pentatonic scale. :mrgreen:
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:12 pm

dpowell wrote:I'm mostly a lead player, I guess, but I play by 'feel'...I made up my own hybrid major/pentatonic scale. :mrgreen:


Ditto here! Here's an example of "my" scale in G major (most of it is taken from E minor pentatonic though):

e --------------------------------------------------------------------10---12----
B --------------------------------------------------8----10----12----------------
G -----------------------------------------7---9----------------------------------
D --------------------------5----7----9-------------------------------------------
A ----------------5----7----------------------------------------------------------
E ---3---5---7--------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jdogric12) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:42 pm

That's pentatonic major, correct? I never learned my pentatonics very well. I was always too fascinated by diminished and augmented things.
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jimk) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:14 pm

Wow! There are some real stretches in that. Wouldn't it be easier to play this instead? It's moveable.


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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (sloop_john_b) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:22 pm

jimk wrote:Wow! There are some real stretches in that. Wouldn't it be easier to play this instead? It's moveable.


No big stretches, Jim - you have to move your position. For instance, on the first string, the first three notes would be played with the index finger, ring finger, and then a slid-over ring finger, respectively.
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jimk) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:31 pm

Oh, OK. Got it.

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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jdogric12) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:07 pm

A forumite told me about this tip he got from Carol Kaye... "pivot" with your left thumb and you can reach lots more positions while still being somewhat anchored to the back of the neck. You can reach about 8 frets without moving position on a bass if you do this.
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (jps) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:22 pm

jdogric12aolcom wrote:A forumite told me about this tip he got from Carol Kaye... "pivot" with your left thumb and you can reach lots more positions while still being somewhat anchored to the back of the neck. You can reach about 8 frets without moving position on a bass if you do this.

Fançois Rabbath has been teaching that for a long time, also.

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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (wittyair) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:43 pm

Back in college ( way too long ago ) I'd help my guitar playing buddy learn his leads by keeping
the rhythm for him. It just kind of stayed that way......I can play a little lead on certain songs but
I have concentrated on being the best rhythm player I could be. I'm not the spotlight guy on stage.....no
flash but not many mistakes either.
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (doctorwho) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:53 pm

jdogric12aolcom wrote:... You can reach about 8 frets without moving position on a bass if you do this.

I'll have to try that, because I'm pretty sure that my short fingers will not be able to cover that much territory! :D
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (doctorwho) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:55 pm

wittyair wrote:... I can play a little lead on certain songs but I have concentrated on being the best rhythm player I could be ...

I'm right there, too, Craig! :D
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Re: What kind of guitar player are you?

Postby (antipodean) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:05 pm

My first public foray as a guitarist was playing as ring-in rhythm man for a friend's punk group. My band was on the same (very low rent) ticket, so I borrowed our guitarist's tele copy & amp. After the very short set, I asked him how I sounded, and his comment was "like a bass-player playing guitar". That says it all, really....
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