One More Time........Adding a Bigsby to a 350V63???

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One More Time........Adding a Bigsby to a 350V63???

Postby (herb) » Thu Jan 10, 2002 4:14 pm

First of all, I'm new to the RIC Forum and I really do appreciate being given the opportunity to participate. I have already extracted a wealth of great information from reading the past postings, it is a great site! I know my subject is not a new one, and I hope bringing it up once again does not annoy anybody. Perhaps like many people who have asked this question before, I love the 325V59 look, but the 3/4 scale neck is just too small for my full-scale hands. So, I'd like to "redress" a Jetglo 350V63 with a Bigsby and gold parts to have both the Hamburg look and a comfortable full scale neck. I'm confused whether this can be done(?), because Mark's posting on 04/23/01 says a Bigsby can fit on a 350 but John Hall's input on 09/12/01 says it will not mount well due to the difference in slope. Finally, there is currently a "Hamburged" 350V63 pictured at the Guitar Resurrection website(www.guitarresurrection.com/usedhtml/usdrik350v63.html), and Jim at GR told me the added Bigsby on this 350 seems to function as it should. I wish that RIC would offer the full scale Liverpool model with all 3 tailpiece options (trapeze, accent vibrato or Bigsby) plus the choice of white or gold pickgaurds & nameplates. This would fill the void that exists for RIC lovers who like the classic look of the 325V59, but want the improved playability of a full scale neck. With the 325V59 now discontinued, adding these 350V63 options seem to make even more sense today! So, at the risk of beating a dead horse to death, I would truly welcome any final(?) advice on this subject. I will close by saying my desire to put a Bigsby on a 350V63 is mainly to get the classic "Lennon Look", not to use it as a vibrato. I'm not a "Ventures" style guitar player, so as long as the Bigsby will fit and serve as a suitable tailpiece I would be quite happy! Sorry for the LONG opening post, I promise to be a lot more concise from now on!
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Postby (miked) » Tue Jan 15, 2002 5:53 pm

Greetings Herb, and welcome. I'm sorry that I don't have any answers for you but I wanted to say 'hey'. Do you already have a 350V63?
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Postby (webhead) » Wed Jan 16, 2002 2:49 am

I thought the wood is cut differently on the bottom near the tremolo on the 350v63 than the 325v59.
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Postby (herb) » Wed Jan 16, 2002 1:28 pm

Michael/Gerald, thanks for the replies. I believe you are correct about the "slope" on the 325v63 & 350v63 being different than the 325v59 - as John Hall had indicated last September. I was just wondering if anyone had successfully installed a Bigsby on a 350v63 despite the difference? Some of the past comments led me to believe it can be done, although it is not something I will do if the fit is really bad or the vibrato arm will protrude at a wierd angle? I've read John Hall's remarks that Rickenbacker really does not want to get into a situation where there are too many options. This is understandable, but I'd still like to see a 350 offered that could be fitted with any type of tail piece and with either gold or white pick gaurds & truss rod cover/nameplate. If all this required was a change in slope, it seems it would be worth considering given the variety of tailpiece and color options it would permit on the 350 full neck adaption of the 325. No, I did not purchase a 350V63 yet but I am going to within the next few weeks. I have had a 360-12v64 since 1993 and love that!!
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Postby (webhead) » Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:55 am

Maybe RIC has the option of adding a Bigsby @ the factory? I just ordered a 360 with toasters. I just recently called RIC for a gold guard for a 360. Looks like the sun isn't shining for me!
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Postby (herb) » Sun Jan 20, 2002 7:45 am

Good question about adding a Bigsby as a Factory option. I guess the 350v63 is not designed for it, but will customers be able to order a new 325c58 with a Bigsby instead of a Kaufmann vibrola? I realize a Kaufmann was installed on the original models but, setting authenticity aside, is a Kaufmann vibrola the best thing from a playability standpoint? I'm not a Luthier or a Techie, but it looks like a poorly designed and problematic arrangement to me. I sympathize with you on the gold gaurds - seems like RIC has decided to treat them like "GOLD", I can't get one either.

p.s. - my new 350v63 is arriving next week!
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Postby (jwilli) » Sun Jan 20, 2002 11:15 am

I don't believe that you'll be able to order a Bigsby instead of a Kauffman. You can always install a Bigsby yourself ala Lennon.
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Postby (herb) » Sun Jan 20, 2002 12:49 pm

Thanks John. You have probably already seen it, but I have since read Nick D's 5/7/01 comments under the "Raised Pickgaurd on Lennon's 325?" discussion. It says, up until a few weeks before the January 2001 NAMM show, there were going to be two versions of the 325C58 available with one to "Sullivan Show" specs including Bigsby, etc. But RIC upper management decided to issue one version of the guitar as it was originally made. I guess that definitively rules out the Bigsby as a 325C58 factory option. Although it seems like a viable thing to offer, as many customers will no doubt continue to want a 325 that replicates the John Lennon "Sullivan Show" version and has a more stable(?) vibrato tailpiece.
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