two-tone brown '58 325 - eBay

[jdogric12]

Colorado huh? Maybe they're selling it to finance a weed store! oops I mean

[Medicus1963]

Hi Glen,
This Guitar is breathtaking !! Any suggestions how to put your loom into it ?

Peter

[Ivan3000]

That's nice! I'd say that 325's are far smaller than 4/5 scale though.

The 325 scale length is actually larger than 4/5 scale; the scale proportion is 83.83~% (vs. 80%).

325 scale = 20.75"
standard RIC 300 series scale = 24.75"

Do the math!

Huh, excuse my ignorance to the subject. I just did the math with a standard strat scale as well, and it comes to about 4/5.
The 325's I had the opportunity to play definately felt much much smaller. I wonder why that is?

[Hotzenplotz]

With reference to the rest of the guitar world the (e.g.) 330 is a 7/8 scale with its 24 3/4".
My Little Martin LXK2 (yeah!, great guitar BTW!!!) is a 3/4 scale with its 23".
The 325 (C58) is a 1/2 scale, measuring only 20 3/4".

Notice: 1/2 size does not mean the half of the full scale!

Source and more about scales here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_(string_instruments)

[Ivan3000]

With reference to the rest of the guitar world the (e.g.) 330 is a 7/8 scale with its 24 3/4".
My Little Martin LXK2 (yeah!, great guitar BTW!!!) is a 3/4 scale with its 23".
The 325 (C58) is a 1/2 scale, measuring only 20 3/4".

Notice: 1/2 size does not mean the half of the full scale!

Source and more about scales here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale_(string_instruments)

Thank you Sascha, Now I know I'm not crazy for thinking that.

[wim]

Well, I'll have to let this one go..

[chefothefuture]

Why do I get the feeling that this information will somehow be used against us.

I'm sure you've seen it, but Glen's terrific page may be of some assistance: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~glen325/index.html

Oh God! This one will need a re-fin and some serious woodwork to make it
"Lennon Spec..."

[Ivan3000]

Why do I get the feeling that this information will somehow be used against us.

I'm sure you've seen it, but Glen's terrific page may be of some assistance: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~glen325/index.html

Oh God! This one will need a re-fin and some serious woodwork to make it
"Lennon Spec..."

I'll get the black paint and the bigsby!

[chefothefuture]

Why do I get the feeling that this information will somehow be used against us.

I'm sure you've seen it, but Glen's terrific page may be of some assistance: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~glen325/index.html

Oh God! This one will need a re-fin and some serious woodwork to make it
"Lennon Spec..."

I'll get the black paint and the bigsby!

Gaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!
Just give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it!!!!!

[johnhall]

Oh God! This one will need a re-fin and some serious woodwork to make it
"Lennon Spec..."

Then, of course, there's the folks that might try to "Harrisonize" it.

[sloop_john_b]

SAVE V109

[Medicus1963]

although i am a "lennonizer" , i would leave this in its original status. But i donotwant to sell my house for it, you can not live in a guitar.

Peter

[jingle_jangle]

Can't afford that sort of originality...but I had fun building this one a few years back...





This is the one with only 2 volume controls...

[Ivan3000]

Can't afford that sort of originality...but I had fun building this one a few years back...





This is the one with only 2 volume controls...

Thats really nice, Paul! Was this for yourself or a customer?

[glen_l]

V109 is beautiful just as it is. The only thing non original is a 3/16" combo type nut that was mostly likely an early factory repair. I'm sure any sane person would leave this historic guitar as it is.

Incidentally, the only thing it's lacking is a case. We know that period correct would be an old combo400/450 grey/silver one. In the short term I've recommended the seller buy a 325c58 case, as this is much more sturdy and a far better fit than the old combo case. Problem is, he can't find a c58 case. So if anyone can help, it would be put to very good use.


Scale length is a subjective thing. A standard classical guitar is said have a full scale length of 26" (or 25.5" depending on your school of thought), whereas electrics ranging from 24.5" to 25.5" and are still generally thought of as full scale. I got out my old 335 and measured it to be sure, and it is approx 24.5"

So if you're going to be calling the 325 a 3/4" scale guitar, then start calling all your other electrics short scales (24.5" - 25" scale). This includes Rickenbacker 330-360 series, your Gibson LP (and most other Gibson electrics), nearly all your Gretsch's, in fact pretty much all of the well known vintage electrics except Fender (@ 25.5"). So are we calling Fender and a number of other modern makers the 'rest of the world' of electrics?

The 325 is a little over 4/5 scale compared to the average vintage type guitar. The reason it feels small is more to do with the body size. The bridge is placed well back on quite a small body, meaning there is little meat between the bridge and tail compared to many guitars. If you move the 325 so that the body is sitting squarely on your body, it moves the neck into a more usual playing position and suddenly it doesn't seem so small. You hear so many complaints about the guitar being too short, but you just have to hold it right. Check how Lennon positioned his while playing.