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Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:09 pm
by iiipopes
And now for something completely different: Terz guitar. That is taking a short-scale guitar, using light strings, and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. Short scale Rickenbacker instruments are perfect for this treatment. When I have the occasion to play terz, I restring my 320 with a regular set of 9's (but still with a wound 17 or 18 G string so I don't have to reintonate the saddle) and crank up the tuning to get a unique clear, chimey tone that can slot some brightness into a mix, but be its own voice: not 12-string, not Nashville tuning, not mandolin, not ukulele. 9's pulled up to terz tuning have about the same tension as 12's at regular pitch on a 320/325, so no tweak of the truss rod is necessary.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terz_guitar

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:49 am
by admin
iiipopes wrote:And now for something completely different: Terz guitar. That is taking a short-scale guitar, using light strings, and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. Short scale Rickenbacker instruments are perfect for this treatment. When I have the occasion to play terz, I restring my 320 with a regular set of 9's (but still with a wound 17 or 18 G string so I don't have to reintonate the saddle) and crank up the tuning to get a unique clear, chimey tone that can slot some brightness into a mix, but be its own voice: not 12-string, not Nashville tuning, not mandolin, not ukulele. 9's pulled up to terz tuning have about the same tension as 12's at regular pitch on a 320/325, so no tweak of the truss rod is necessary.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terz_guitar
Scott do you have any soundbytes of this short-scale with the unique tuning. :)

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:29 am
by iiipopes
admin wrote:
iiipopes wrote:And now for something completely different: Terz guitar. That is taking a short-scale guitar, using light strings, and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. Short scale Rickenbacker instruments are perfect for this treatment. When I have the occasion to play terz, I restring my 320 with a regular set of 9's (but still with a wound 17 or 18 G string so I don't have to reintonate the saddle) and crank up the tuning to get a unique clear, chimey tone that can slot some brightness into a mix, but be its own voice: not 12-string, not Nashville tuning, not mandolin, not ukulele. 9's pulled up to terz tuning have about the same tension as 12's at regular pitch on a 320/325, so no tweak of the truss rod is necessary.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terz_guitar
Scott do you have any soundbytes of this short-scale with the unique tuning. :)
No, I am not good with that sort of thing. Sorry.

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:47 am
by admin
iiipopes wrote:
admin wrote:
iiipopes wrote:And now for something completely different: Terz guitar. That is taking a short-scale guitar, using light strings, and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. Short scale Rickenbacker instruments are perfect for this treatment. When I have the occasion to play terz, I restring my 320 with a regular set of 9's (but still with a wound 17 or 18 G string so I don't have to reintonate the saddle) and crank up the tuning to get a unique clear, chimey tone that can slot some brightness into a mix, but be its own voice: not 12-string, not Nashville tuning, not mandolin, not ukulele. 9's pulled up to terz tuning have about the same tension as 12's at regular pitch on a 320/325, so no tweak of the truss rod is necessary.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terz_guitar
Scott do you have any soundbytes of this short-scale with the unique tuning. :)
No, I am not good with that sort of thing. Sorry.
Scott, tears for the terz demo. I will search for one online. :)

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:25 pm
by scoobster28
Couldn't you just capo the guitar at the third fret and see what that sounds like?

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:58 am
by admin
scoobster28 wrote:Couldn't you just capo the guitar at the third fret and see what that sounds like?
Here is a nice video on the Terz Guitar. I think a capo on the third fret would not work for me. Interestingly the demonstration includes a capo on the Terz. :lol:


Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:39 am
by jps
These videos areof a 12-string Reverie model made by Yamamoto. Tsuneyuki makes two different versions, one normally tuned to G, the other to A. I am sure he could make a 6-string version if requested. I have played one of these in 2015 when I visited him at his home, after buying my MS-12 from Eric Schoenberg's shop in Tiburon.





https://yamamotoguitar.com/models/

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:54 am
by admin
jps wrote:These videos areof a 12-string Reverie model made by Yamamoto. Tsuneyuki makes two different versions, one normally tuned to G, the other to A. I am sure he could make a 6-string version if requested. I have played one of these in 2015 when I visited him at his home, after buying my MS-12 from Eric Schoenberg's shop in Tiburon.





https://yamamotoguitar.com/models/
Amazing instrument and beautiful tone and playing Jeffrey. They are much mellower than I might have imagined. Thanks for these nice links.

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:13 pm
by s11141827
Yeah the RIckenbacker 320 is actually "Terz" in Sizing so it makes a nice Jangling Terz Guitar.

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:21 am
by doctorwho
iiipopes wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:09 pm ... and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. ...
Ummm ... by my reckoning, a guitar in standard tuning, capoed at the third fret, would be voiced as G-C-F-Bb-D-G .... as I missing something here? :roll:

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:04 pm
by jps
doctorwho wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:21 am
iiipopes wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:09 pm ... and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. ...
Ummm ... by my reckoning, a guitar in standard tuning, capoed at the third fret, would be voiced as G-C-F-Bb-D-G .... as I missing something here? :roll:
Some folks do things backwards. :mrgreen: Or maybe they play a right-handed guitar upside down? :wink:

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 12:49 am
by doctorwho
jps wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:04 pm
doctorwho wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:21 am
iiipopes wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:09 pm ... and tuning it up three frets to G-D-Bb-F-C-G, as if you took a regular guitar and played it capo'ed at the 3rd fret. ...
Ummm ... by my reckoning, a guitar in standard tuning, capoed at the third fret, would be voiced as G-C-F-Bb-D-G .... as I missing something here? :roll:
Some folks do things backwards. :mrgreen: Or maybe they play a right-handed guitar upside down? :wink:
Aha ... perspective ... a "my left is your right" thing ... I guess I hang out with too many vampires to have thought to look at it in a mirror! :shock: :lol: 8)

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2024 12:01 pm
by iiipopes
Really?

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:03 am
by doctorwho
"Earth humor ... Arr Arr." :shock: :lol: 8)

Re: Terz Guitar

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:34 am
by jps
doctorwho wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:03 am "Earth humor ... Arr Arr." :shock: :lol: 8)
:mrgreen: :D