'Horseshoe' question

philipharris · Post by **philipharris** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:12 pm

Actually, hate to say it but I am a trade mark lawyer - but I think it's probably best if I stay out of the debate now, I'm bound to upset one side or the other!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:57 pm

Now, THERE'S a teaser and a revelation...

harvey49 · Post by **harvey49** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:03 pm

Yes Paul, strange someone would make a statement like that then back away

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:12 pm

Hello Ron!! Long time no hear! What's been happenin'??

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:23 pm

Ron, if I were a trademark attorney, I would do exactly that to avoid poisoning the well of goodwill.

philipharris · Post by **philipharris** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:29 pm

Not at all strange. It refers back to and answers Paul's comment:

"We are not patent lawyers" because, in effect I am, in the sense that I'm a specialist in this area (trade marks being the actual field rather than patents): + I have been contributing - and as the owner of a number of basses that would welcome horseshoe spares (as opposed to having to source ex-V63 kit off ebay at $500 a pop), in many ways I would like to continue to do so - but after consideration as things have got more detailed, in what is a public arena, I feel that I shouldn't really go into any more depth, without disclosing that I've got some experience in this area. Further since it obviously arouses great passion all around, whichever side of the fence I might be on, it's going to annoy some people on the forum. Taking part in this forum is fun time for me, and I like and respect you all so whilst I have some "professional views" I think it's best to keep schtum from here on. It is an interesting question, though, and I'll be fascinated to see how it pans out.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:39 pm

Well said, Philip. In most cases, it does make sense to keep one's personal and professional lives well compartmented.

harvey49 · Post by **harvey49** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:56 pm

Been tourin round this big country of ours in a caravan, I've got to tell you I'm glad to be now though. I won't be to keen to go travelling in van for quite a while unless someone offers me a loan of a luxury model - camping is not really my caper.

Good to see there's still some sparky topics being pursued, I'm sorry I didn't get to see Paul's project completed - tried the last thread I had but no go - pity would have liked to see how it came up

Keep up the good work boys

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:04 pm

Glad you're back in one piece, Ron. Camping doesn't do much for me, either (unless it's in a 40' Winnebago!!).

Which project of Paul's are you looking for?

You'll have to come to our next RickFest - we had a great day on October 30th! We'll keep you informed on the next one.....

david_schwab · Post by **david_schwab** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:46 am

Was not the HS designed by the same guy who STOLE
National and it's patents from John Dopyera?

It was my understanding that both the horseshoe pickup and the original resophonic guitars (and the tri-cone) were invented by Electro/Rickenbacker founder George Beauchamp. The story is that they used the name "Rickenbacker" because Beauchamp was too hard to pronounce.

That's the way I've read it anyway.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:57 am

How do you pronounce it anyway?

Well, it's BEE chum.

No, wait, it's BOW champ.

Or BOW shum.

Dopyera is much easier.

It's pronounced DO pee ED uh.

That's why they're called "Dobros" (DOpyera BROs.)

david_schwab · Post by **david_schwab** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:04 am

It's "BEE chum" ...

I never knew how to say "Dopyera"

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:07 am

Yeah, one of those difficult Slavic names...I'm glad I've got an easy one.

david_schwab · Post by **david_schwab** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:11 am

Hey... people have trouble with my last name too.... can't image why!

bitzerguy · Post by **bitzerguy** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:50 am

Here in Québec (where français is the law!) it's pronounced "Bo shan" (with the "a" sounding like it does in "Mazda", and a glottal stop after the n), and it means "Pretty Field".

My name is from the same land as Paul's, and it is pronounced as it is spelled (all vowels short) but I still get every other variant except the correct one.

...Dean