Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

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Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (tnelson) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:14 pm

my HiGain pickups are weak. trying to decide if I need to switch them or get them rewound
thoughts/ideas?
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (analogpackrat) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:52 pm

What kind of amp are you using? Do you use pedals? What other guitars are you using for comparison? What kind of tones are you trying to get?

I don't find the hi-gains in two of my Ricks to be weak, but I use mid-70s Fender amps. You might consider a cleanish boost pedal if you want to push your amp's front-end harder. I would do this before rewinding. You can sell a boost pedal if you don't like it, but I'm not sure what you'd get for over-wound hi-gains.
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (tnelson) » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:59 pm

I use a AC-30, I have a Seymour Duncan pickup boost but I like to switch it on for leads, my multimeter stopped working so I havent been able to check them.
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (winston) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:14 am

Try adjusting the height of your pickups relative to the strings. You may need to bring them up a tad so you can get a bit more bite when you attack the strings hard.......when you play lead for example .

I have a few amps to choose from but I do use a Vox AC30 VR and my 350 has "toasterized" high gains. I can get some great tones and lots of sustain with that guitar and amp. Just a few millimeters can make a huge difference.
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (paologregorio) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:24 am

If that doesn't work, just stick another bar magnet on the underside of the p/up; it will boost output, and it's prolly a lot cheaper than a rewind!
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (weemac) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:36 am

The first thing is to get a new multi meter to check if the pickup is to spec..
If they are 70s-80s they should be 7.5kish if they are about 1990 onwards they should be 12kish
If they are not in the ballpark then you need further investigation to see what has gone wrong...

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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (tnelson) » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:59 am

yeah Im going to buy a new mutlimeter, will adding another bar mag really add more output? where can you buy a bar magnet and would I need a ceramic (I assume?) or alnico?
If that doesnt work I might look into some newer higains when did they go to 12K? , I really DO NOT want to retro fit GFS Ive youtubed those an I dont hear much difference :roll:
thanks for the help
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (parker_knoll) » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:34 am

my 90s higains are strong, i have to back them down away from the strings. you can also bypass the tone control and/or volume controls, that adds more welly to the pickups
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (iiipopes) » Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:16 pm

Um, with due respect to the above posters, hi-gains from any era can be almost anything. I've seen them as low as 6.1kohms, and as high as 14kohms. One cause of a weak pickup is if there is something preventing the bar magnet on the bottom making good clean contact with the polepieces. That happened to me when I cracked a high gain magnet. I had to be very careful with the epoxy to make sure a film did not get between the magnet and the poles.

Also, as stated above, output in relation to distance from the strings varies as the square of the distance from the strings, so a little bit closer should make a significant difference in perceived output.
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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (bluegrassmoker) » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:17 pm

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Re: Hi-Gain pickups rewind?

Postby (soundmasterg) » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:15 am

What year guitar are your pickups from?

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