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Do I want this HB1?

Postby (Mapleserupt) » Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:19 pm

Hi guys. Dumb question for you... I want to replaced the factory hi-gains on my 2004 Ric 360 with HB1 humbuckers. Can someone confirm that these in the link below are the right ones? It seems odd to me that the pickups are for both bass and guitar.

http://www.pickofthericks.com/rickenbac ... -00060-61/
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (electrofaro) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:11 am

Quite a few "bass" p/u have 6 poles inside, but have a flat surface which doesnt show that.

Part 00060 is correct if you need the guitar humbucker
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:29 am

Charles, HB1's are dual blade humbuckers that sound great in bass or guitar, but the stock electronics in a 360 aren't even optimized for single coil pickups, let alone humbuckers. You'll need 500K pots all around, and .022uF tone caps. I build custom harnesses for these with the addition of push-pull coil taps using matched components.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (Mapleserupt) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:23 am

How much would that cost?
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:24 am

Charles......A harness for a 360 with HB1's, a pair of push-pull controls to coil-short the HB1's and Rick-O-Sound output would be $120+shipping.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (Mapleserupt) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:06 am

Would those be authentic Ric pick-ups?

Alternatively, I'm also considering buying toaster pickups. How do they compare to HB1s?
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 4:27 pm

HB1's are RIC humbuckers. They measure about 15K Ohms. Toasters usually spec out at at around 7.5K. An HB1 has a fatter tone than a Toaster, but when one of the coils is shorted to ground, it can sound a bit like a Toaster, since it becomes a single coil.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (Mapleserupt) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:42 pm

Thanks for your replies. I'm going for a Guy Picciotto (Fugazi) sound. Although his wiki article says he plays with HB1s, the only photos of him playing appear to be with hi-gains. That's what these are, right?Image

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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:35 pm

Can't tell for sure on the 330, but the 360 is definitely loaded with Hi-Gains.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (jps) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:40 pm

Looks like hi-gains.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:58 pm

Oh you photog sleuth you Jeff!
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (wmthor) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:18 pm

Dane, would your custom harness work in a left-handed 360?
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:09 pm

Richard, I make left handed harnesses all the time. I can make them clockwise, or counter clockwise rotation. Since I don't carry left handed pots (CTS doesn't make the pots I use in LH version), counter clockwise rotaion wiring brings the volume or tone up pretty fast.
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (Mapleserupt) » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:04 pm

Hi Dane,

So it turns out that Guy used a Hi-Gain on the neck and an HB-1 on the bridge. What would you charge for an appropriate harness for that setup?
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Re: Do I want this HB1?

Postby (aceonbass) » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:35 pm

$110 shipped in the US assuming the coil shorting option for the HB1. You'll need to reverse the red and blue wires on the HB1 to make it in phase with the single coil pickup.
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