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The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (tamere) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:20 am

How are they, compared to Ricks? Should Rickenbacker be worried? Any insight would be appreciated.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (jimk) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:18 am

I have only heard one, maybe two sound clips. I've never actually seen one, let alone played one. But based on this limited experience, I'll just stick to playing my Rick 12.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (bvstudios) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:16 am

I understand they are not strung the same as Ric's... If I someone got me one, I wouldn't be selling my 370/12. Two different instruments.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (Zurdo) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:45 pm

nothing new about Gretsch 12-string models, Mike Nesmith of The Monkees played one back in 1966-67, so they've been around forever.

Nowadays "Gretsch" are made in China, or South Korea, unless you order from the Gretsch Custom Shop in the US.

the REAL Gretsch guitars would have a zero fret, the Chinese-Korean "Electromatic Gretsch" do not come with zero fret.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (jps) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:47 pm

Zurdo wrote:the REAL Gretsch guitars would have a zero fret, the Chinese-Korean "Electromatic Gretsch" do not come with zero fret.

I think you need to qualify that as my former Gretsch was very much a REAL Gretsch guitar and it did not have a zero fret. :?
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (deaconblues) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:14 pm

Also...

Zurdo wrote:Nowadays "Gretsch" are made in China, or South Korea, unless you order from the Gretsch Custom Shop in the US.[/b]


Not true. The Professional Series Gretsches are made at a very highly regarded factory in Japan.

And, yeah, there are TONS of real Gretsch models without zero frets.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (libratune) » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:50 pm

1967 Gretsch 12-string with zero fret:

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Low action, plays great!
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (jimk) » Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:34 am

deaconblues wrote:Also...

Zurdo wrote:Nowadays "Gretsch" are made in China, or South Korea, unless you order from the Gretsch Custom Shop in the US.[/b]


Not true. The Professional Series Gretsches are made at a very highly regarded factory in Japan.


And the new Electromatic Series (G5420, G5422) are nearly as highly regarded as the Pro-Line models. They are indeed made in Korea.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (fluffy) » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:37 am

They look, play and sound great. The price is decent as well (just below the $800.00 mark). No, it's not a Rickenbacker 12 string ,just as a 330 isn't a Les Paul, apples and oranges :wink:
♪♫♪♫I need new strings, these ones have a bunch of dang wrong notes on 'em ♫♪♫♪


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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (cestlamort) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:42 pm

fluffy wrote:They look, play and sound great. The price is decent as well (just below the $800.00 mark). No, it's not a Rickenbacker 12 string ,just as a 330 isn't a Les Paul, apples and oranges :wink:

I agree. I played a couple in a store and I was impressed with the quality/price ratio. Good looking and good playing guitars.

They are full hollow body, i believe, so might make a nice "hang out on the couch unplugged" 12 string.
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (Zurdo) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:50 pm

libratune wrote:1967 Gretsch 12-string with zero fret:

GRE012002.jpg
GRE012006.jpg

Low action, plays great!


now we cookin', that's a REAL Gretsch with a zero fret ! Congrats, those are rare. I want it, sell it to me. :D
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (Zurdo) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:54 pm

Sorry, boys, Electromatics are NOT the REAL Gretsch. they are what they are, but they are not a REAL Gretsch. whether Made in China, Korea, or Japan, same thing >> NOT REAL GRETSCH.

I am NOT SAYING the China-Korea-Japan -made "Electromatics Gretsch" are BAD, I am saying they are NOT REAL GRETSCH and NONE have a zero fret.

Jay Turser makes a decent Gretsch copy, so does everybody else and their brother, but they are NOT REAL GRETSCH.

I hereby Declare Oficially: Electromatics are NOT real Gretsch. :D
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (bvstudios) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:40 pm

Joe (Carducci) may beg to differ.

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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (Zurdo) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:57 am

here's one like Mike Nesmith used to have:
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Re: The new Gretsch 12 strings?

Postby (Zurdo) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 am

here's to show you I have no prejudice against Japanese guitars, since I collect KENT guitars myself, specifically the KENT 820 Series, one of the best playing guitars I ever had. I have 3 of those including a 12-string 821 version of the 820 Series.

Incredibly, these guitars play IN TUNE. The electronics are a bit flimsy but nothing that can't be cured. The pickups are massive single-coil windings. The sound? think early Beach Boys. And all three have Zero Frets !!
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