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I think for the sake of making this Ric "studio-ready," a line was crossed when considering what a "collector purist" would do versus what a musician would do. Gruhn makes a good point that musicians make music with these things - which ultimately leads to changing things on the guitar that damage its collector value. By making this Ric more playable and closer to how Harrison played it, certain goals are attained. However, from a certain collector's point of view, this Ric is now damaged as it is further removed from its original condition (i can't get over that nut, sorry!). The player in me is like "all right! now i can play this thing easier, and can get a sound out of it like it's a Harrison much easier!" but the collector in me is like "some of the cosmetics are reversible, but man that nut is really make or break in terms of historic significance and originality questions. i would have left it alone if it's going to hang more than being played out."
I think for the sake of making this Ric "studio-ready," a line was crossed when considering what a "collector purist" would do versus what a musician would do. Gruhn makes a good point that musicians make music with these things - which ultimately leads to changing things on the guitar that damage its collector value. By making this Ric more playable and closer to how Harrison played it, certain goals are attained. However, from a certain collector's point of view, this Ric is now damaged as it is further removed from its original condition (i can't get over that nut, sorry!). The player in me is like "all right! now i can play this thing easier, and can get a sound out of it like it's a Harrison much easier!" but the collector in me is like "some of the cosmetics are reversible, but man that nut is really make or break in terms of historic significance and originality questions. i would have left it alone if it's going to hang more than being played out."
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Forgetting whether we agree or disagree with what's happened to the Arden 12. Back to the website set before us. I have to admit, it does look a little amateurish, sorry. There's a lot of great web building software out there. Maybe at this early stage, it might be worth considering the overall look and give it a bit of a revamp? But conceptually, surely, if we want to see Beatle guitars, we can view the actual guitars on the web? Apart from the satisfaction of personally owning the instruments, which I can fully understand, I'm struggling to see the value or purpose of thebeatlesgear.com (so far) as a serious source of Beatle gear information? Am I missing the point?
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We are currently in the process of finding a professional website designer. I made this site with very basic HTML skills. We wanted to have something up by 8/16/12 to celebrate the 50th anniversay of The Beatles as the world knows them. We are doing frequent updates to the Facebook site and we consider that our main avenue of communication until the "professionally" designed website is up and running.8mileshigh wrote:Forgetting whether we agree or disagree with what's happened to the Arden 12. Back to the website set before us. I have to admit, it does look a little amateurish, sorry. There's a lot of great web building software out there. Maybe at this early stage, it might be worth considering the overall look and give it a bit of a revamp? But conceptually, surely, if we want to see Beatle guitars, we can view the actual guitars on the web? Apart from the satisfaction of personally owning the instruments, which I can fully understand, I'm struggling to see the value or purpose of thebeatlesgear.com (so far) as a serious source of Beatle gear information? Am I missing the point?
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Josh, I agree with you completely, it has ALOT to do with the Beatles. That chord is what makes alot of people want a Rick-12 (That and the Byrds of course). It is even the first thing you hear when you call RIC.
And, its not even the first electric 12 so, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
And, its not even the first electric 12 so, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
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Did you think about this before you typed it?IvanMunoz wrote:And, its not even the first electric 12 so, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
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I wasn't aware of it,I've since corrected myself, I was under the impression that it was, I guess it was the first electric twelve that became famous.Grey wrote:Did you think about this before you typed it?IvanMunoz wrote:And, its not even the first electric 12 so, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
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Wow... lots in the fray here. I don't really have the time or the stomach to read everyone's comments, especially as they're becoming more heated, but from what I gleaned off the first page my 2 cents lies about here:
If you're claiming that modding wasn't a detriment to Suzi Arden's guitar somehow just because the Beatles did the same to theirs, that would only ring true if Miss Arden herself was the one who modded it, not the new owner. I echo the same sentiment as other purists here - this was more than just a premier model, it was a piece of history due to the provenance it earned while in Arden's possession and use. Modding this guitar has destroyed that value. It was a mistake that shouldn't have been done. I'm sure you'd hear the same uproar from Chris Squire fans if he had donated his bass to someone or some organization claiming to be a legitimate presenter of valuable vintage guitars only to have them alter it in like fashion. Same with any of the Beatle or Townsend originals. I don't know the whole story here, but this reeks a little of someone's ego getting the best of this guitar. I know this sounds completely unfair in theory, but when you own a piece of history, you owe it to the rest of the world to do it right and not mess with it.
If you're claiming that modding wasn't a detriment to Suzi Arden's guitar somehow just because the Beatles did the same to theirs, that would only ring true if Miss Arden herself was the one who modded it, not the new owner. I echo the same sentiment as other purists here - this was more than just a premier model, it was a piece of history due to the provenance it earned while in Arden's possession and use. Modding this guitar has destroyed that value. It was a mistake that shouldn't have been done. I'm sure you'd hear the same uproar from Chris Squire fans if he had donated his bass to someone or some organization claiming to be a legitimate presenter of valuable vintage guitars only to have them alter it in like fashion. Same with any of the Beatle or Townsend originals. I don't know the whole story here, but this reeks a little of someone's ego getting the best of this guitar. I know this sounds completely unfair in theory, but when you own a piece of history, you owe it to the rest of the world to do it right and not mess with it.
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I think you misunderstand me. It's the first 12 string guitar Rickenbacker ever made, and the only 12 string to leave the factory with conventional string pairs. Wether it was the first electric 12 string guitar in the world is irrelevant to the signifigance in Rickenbacker history of the Arden guitar. It's like putting stickers and active pickups on a 1959 Les Paul and playing it in a punk rock band.IvanMunoz wrote:I wasn't aware of it,I've since corrected myself, I was under the impression that it was, I guess it was the first electric twelve that became famous.
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Yeah, like "I bought Chris Squire's bass and restored it to look like the Bee Gees' bass"....walker wrote:Wow... lots in the fray here. I don't really have the time or the stomach to read everyone's comments, especially as they're becoming more heated, but from what I gleaned off the first page my 2 cents lies about here:
If you're claiming that modding wasn't a detriment to Suzi Arden's guitar somehow just because the Beatles did the same to theirs, that would only ring true if Miss Arden herself was the one who modded it, not the new owner. I echo the same sentiment as other purists here - this was more than just a premier model, it was a piece of history due to the provenance it earned while in Arden's possession and use. Modding this guitar has destroyed that value. It was a mistake that shouldn't have been done. I'm sure you'd hear the same uproar from Chris Squire fans if he had donated his bass to someone or some organization claiming to be a legitimate presenter of valuable vintage guitars only to have them alter it in like fashion. Same with any of the Beatle or Townsend originals. I don't know the whole story here, but this reeks a little of someone's ego getting the best of this guitar. I know this sounds completely unfair in theory, but when you own a piece of history, you owe it to the rest of the world to do it right and not mess with it.
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Mr. Noyes and "Paul" disagree with you, and oh by the way, NEENER NEENER NEENER.walker wrote:I don't know the whole story here, but this reeks a little of someone's ego getting the best of this guitar. I know this sounds completely unfair in theory, but when you own a piece of history, you owe it to the rest of the world to do it right and not mess with it.
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I also don't get it. With the most professional web design out there, all we are looking at is a collection of new and old guitars that the Beatles never touched, played or laid eyes on. It's a Beatles Gear geek's dream to come home to a room like that, but who on earth want's to look at the in's and out's of these guitars when you can fire up your ipad and look at Georges actual 12 string in pannable 360-degrees?8mileshigh wrote:Forgetting whether we agree or disagree with what's happened to the Arden 12. Back to the website set before us. I have to admit, it does look a little amateurish, sorry. There's a lot of great web building software out there. Maybe at this early stage, it might be worth considering the overall look and give it a bit of a revamp? But conceptually, surely, if we want to see Beatle guitars, we can view the actual guitars on the web? Apart from the satisfaction of personally owning the instruments, which I can fully understand, I'm struggling to see the value or purpose of thebeatlesgear.com (so far) as a serious source of Beatle gear information? Am I missing the point?
And if there is some plan to somehow tour with this collection and charge money for looking at it... then good luck.
Great Ramp In My Opinion.
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And a company here where I live had the first double neck 6/12 before that: the Stratosphere, made from 1954 to 1958 in Springfield, Missouri.opticnerve wrote:Sorry, but Danelectro came out with the electric 12 string in 1961.IvanMunoz wrote:
after all Rickenbacker did invent the electric guitar and the electric 12 string,
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I love it!
I love it!
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This reminds me of my childhood growing up in Nova Scotia in the late '60s/early '70s.iiipopes wrote:And a company here where I live had the first double neck 6/12 before that: the Stratosphere, made from 1954 to 1958 in Springfield, Missouri.
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