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Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:04 pm
by sowhat
Well, something to start with. I adore old Soviet cartoons. And i also think that art (?) - literature, music, movies, etc - for children is what characterises the country and people who live there the best.
A couple for the start. Both with English subtitles.
"Варежка" - Mitten. Perhaps one of the saddest animation movies of the era. I couldn't watch it without bursting out crying when i was a kid, and it still brings tears to my eyes.

And another one, more positive, so to speak. There are English subtitles, but i'd rather translate the dialogue like this: "Is it for me? - Yes, for you. - And what for? - For nothing [just a present]".

More to follow (if anybody's interested, of course :wink: )
Cheers, SC.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:20 pm
by kiramdear
Sheena, those are so cool, thanks for that.

Mitten has gotta be a classic, wonderful. I didn't find it sad, just touching.

More, please.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:31 pm
by lars
Wow! Beautiful! Thanks for sharing, Sheena!

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:44 pm
by jps
That is a wonderful look into Russian culture, Sheena. Thanks for those! :D

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:51 pm
by kiramdear
sowhat wrote:"Варежка" - Mitten.
Sheena, how do you pronounce "ж"? The rest I can suss out from my Greek studies, "vare?ka"...

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:12 pm
by beatlefreak
Interesting, Sheena. A perspective on animation that we wouldn't normally see.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:40 am
by sowhat
kiramdear wrote:
sowhat wrote:"Варежка" - Mitten.
Sheena, how do you pronounce "ж"? The rest I can suss out from my Greek studies, "vare?ka"...
That would be the sound... well, the symbol for it in English transcription system looks similar to "з" in "dз". Ah, wait - you may know the sound from the word "garage", that'd be the final sound in the word.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:57 am
by sowhat
A couple more, both with English subtitles. These are from the "Little fox" series, from early 90s.


Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:33 am
by kiramdear
sowhat wrote:That would be the sound... well, the symbol for it in English transcription system looks similar to "з" in "dз". Ah, wait - you may know the sound from the word "garage", that'd be the final sound in the word.
I know which sound you refer to. We don't really use that sound much except in the French words we've appropriated :D or in Zsa Zsa Gabor.
I know, it's pronounced varezska for us monoglots.

Every time I see a cartoon I want a bowl of cereal and milk. "Scuse me now...

Thanks Sheena :)

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:18 am
by sowhat
And now — my absolute favourite. There's lots of debates as to whether it's Ukrainian or Russian (and the Wolf's voice belongs to an Armenian), based on Ukrainian fairy tale, made in USSR and loved by many people here. Unfortunately, the translation (subtitles) doesn't really reflect the intonation and such.
Жил-был пёс (There once was a dog)

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:51 pm
by kiramdear
Nice one, Sheena

The artwork reminds me of the painter Rousseau, and the music snippets were wonderful. I love the singing style and tonalities from that part of the world. The story is not unlike Aesop, who used animals to express universal wisdom.

This is becoming my favorite thread. Brava!

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:04 am
by lars
That's wonderful, Sheena! I like that it does not have a strong moral point. It's more like: you help me, I help you... And life goes on... No one is gloryfied.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:15 pm
by sowhat
One more, with English subs. A true classic. There is a mistake there, though. It's not based on a "folk tale", it's based on a tale written by Sergey Kozlov, a Soviet writer (born 1939).

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:42 pm
by doctorno
Thank you for sharing these cartoons, Sheena. They are beautiful. I always wonder why "the Russian soul" seems to be so melancholic. Russian music, Russian movies, Russian literature - they always seem to be so sad and at the same time so beautiful ... and somehow uplifting. You do not know, if you should laugh or cry.

Re: Old Soviet cartoons

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:09 pm
by sowhat
I really couldn't say, Markus. Yes, you're absolutely right in your observation, but i cannot explain why. That's like — well, something natural, something that one adopts as a baby. "Joy and sadness walk hand in hand, but in the end, life is beautiful".