Tuners on Ric 450-12
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Tuners on Ric 450-12
Am considering purchasing a Ric 450-12, 1984, and noticed it had an odd set of Grover tuners. Not sure if these are original to the guitar. Can anyone here confirm if they are? Thanks!
This is the only photo I've found of them:
This is the only photo I've found of them:
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Hey John, nice to see you on the other side of the tracks!Hey John! My '83 330 had the same tuners and it was stock.
That seems to be a confirmation for me. Just looked at the 450-12. It's a bit beat up, lots of nicks and chips. Also, it had the original bar bridge replaced with the more traditional Ric bridge. Sounds pretty good and the neck feels fine. Not sure if there's a case. Guy wants a grand and I made a counter offer of $750. We'll see. I'll have to end up selling my current 610-12 if I get this one.
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Keep me posted on that. My arsenal is missing some jangle at the moment.Oskar wrote:Hey John, nice to see you on the other side of the tracks!Hey John! My '83 330 had the same tuners and it was stock.
That seems to be a confirmation for me. Just looked at the 450-12. It's a bit beat up, lots of nicks and chips. Also, it had the original bar bridge replaced with the more traditional Ric bridge. Sounds pretty good and the neck feels fine. Not sure if there's a case. Guy wants a grand and I made a counter offer of $750. We'll see. I'll have to end up selling my current 610-12 if I get this one.
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
And my April 1982 620 had klusons stock...kiramdear wrote:Those waffle-back tuners came stock on my '82 320.
So I put the change over time from Klusons to Grovers as the summer of 1982.
KIra's 320 is from September as I recall.
The 450 must be early 1984, as by September 1984 when John Hall took over Schallers became standard on RIC guitars...
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Not to mention the fact that the 450 and its variants were discontinued that year...Ontario_RIC_fan wrote: The 450 must be early 1984, as by September 1984 when John Hall took over Schallers became standard on RIC guitars...
Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Appreciate the responses. The guitar, according the the serial number on the tailpiece, is December 1984. I know '84 was the last year they were made. Perhaps this is the very last one made?
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Honestly...wouldn't surprise me!Oskar wrote:Appreciate the responses. The guitar, according the the serial number on the tailpiece, is December 1984. I know '84 was the last year they were made. Perhaps this is the very last one made?
Last one in the register is 5/84.
Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Well, if I end up getting it, I'll have to list it in the registry.Honestly...wouldn't surprise me!
Last one in the register is 5/84.
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
Share the SN even if you don't
B
B
Brian Morton
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
=========================
67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
The SN is XL 1540. Not sure if anything more can be determined other than the month & year.Share the SN even if you don't
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Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
John what colour is it?
Jetglo??
Jetglo??
Brian Morton
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
A Rickenbacker Fan
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
=========================
67 FG 625
74 JG 4000
76 JG 430
77 JG 620
77 JG 320
79 MG 450
79 JG 4001
80 FG 620/12
81 BG 480
91 JG 610
02 BG 620
78 TR7
83 TR25
Re: Tuners on Ric 450-12
It's FG. Also, as I noted, it has the more traditional Ric bridge on it as opposed to the bar-type of bridge. Again, not sure if this is the way it came or not. Looks like someone may have swapped out the bar bridge. Perhaps Rickenbacker was making the transition to the 610, which is basically the 450 with a different bridge, pickguard and the jack coming out the side instead of the top of the pickguard.John what colour is it?
Still in negotiations to buy the guitar. I really do want it, but as always, it comes down to a matter of price.