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Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:54 pm
by T28
Kinda strange that Ric would do a Ltd Ed run and then duplicate a year later.
Is there ANY difference between the original run and the Sweetwater run?
Slightly irritating than SW is selling these for quite a bit less (although congrats to everyone that got one of this batch for a much better price).

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:59 pm
by bottom4
I fully agree being an owner of the original batch...

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:05 pm
by bassduke49
I guess it depends on the conditions you infer from "limited run" - was there any promise that no more would EVER be made? You gotta figure that these limited runs are experiments to see what might sell. Obviously, the Noir was a hit, even at potentially inflated prices. So why wouldn't RIC make more?

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:06 pm
by RIC_FACTORY
For the record, nowhere did I ever say the initial 25 would be the only ones ever made. Given the small quantity produced, stores probably decided to just advertise them as such. As it stands, we have made a total of 61 4003 Noirs (we did 20 for Japan in 2017). One of the Noirs from 2016 ended up going to Marvel for Infinity War, along with a Copperglo.

The Macassar Ebony fretboard is one of the ingredients that makes the Noir what it is. This is true for the bullseye inlays as well, which I notice SW has down as triangle inlays on their spec sheet.

Procuring a reliable and affordable source for the ebony is the main challenge to making the Noirs. I don't have any more Macassar in stock right now for example.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:32 pm
by bottom4
Thanks for cleaning that up, Ben! On FB it was posted as a limited edition. Is it now complete or do you intend to produce more? To be open, where I struggle here is that this SW batch went for considerably less than the initial run. Oh, and yes, being a technically trained economist, I fully get and appreciate free market trade...

Cheers
Andy

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:23 pm
by cheyenne
I hope to see more of these. I see them as a cross between a blackstar and a shadow. Very well thought out. Congrats to those lucky enough to have gotten one.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:42 pm
by RIC_FACTORY
Perhaps someone mistakenly posted it being a limited run on FB. I certainly did not say that, nor can I find that statement.

As far as the pricing, SW paid the same price to us as everyone else did. Not sure how they arrived at THEIR pricing, whatever it was.

I have considered Noirs in colors aside from flat black btw. Like SNG or AUG for example.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:46 pm
by JackTheRipper
RIC_FACTORY wrote:I have considered Noirs in colors aside from flat black btw. Like SNG or AUG for example.
Ooh, a SNG/NOIR would be awesome. Can I put down my deposit now??? :D

--jack

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:55 pm
by bottom4
Yep, your right. I suppose it was a combination of how it was initially presented, how the retailers positioned it and the limited run statement for the 360 noirs on FB...

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:05 am
by T28
Yes Ben, thanks for chiming in.
I have absolutely no issues with those who got their Noirs for approx $500 less than those of us from the first batch.
I am just happy to have one, period.
You have certainly wet my appetite with the other Noir possiblities.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:40 am
by byoung
Thanks for the info Ben, I always appreciate reading your comments here. A matte snowglo or Blanco Noir haha with checkerboard, maple fretboard with the bullseye inlays would look amazing and get my money.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:22 pm
by aceonbass
Noir is French for black isn't it?...... :wink:

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:11 pm
by bottom4
aceonbass wrote:Noir is French for black isn't it?...... :wink:
Oui

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:38 pm
by RIC_FACTORY
aceonbass wrote:Noir is French for black isn't it?...... :wink:
FWIW, we were thinking more along the lines of the movie genre when we named these.

Re: 2018 4003 NOIR

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:18 pm
by aceonbass
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