John Hall Responds to
Rickenbacker Bass Questions

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John Hall's Responses Posted on alt.guitar.rickenbacker:

This page is comprised of a number of John Hall's responses to questions regarding Rickenbacker Basses. It is important to appreciate that some of his responses are based on circumstances at the time of the question. For this reason, the interested reader is advised to check with Rickenbacker International Corporation regarding the current corporate policy or the availability and production of specific instruments.



John Hall's Responses: March 23, 1998 to October 21, 1999


Subject: Scale of Rickenbacker Basses

Date: 1999/10/21

Question: I always thought that Rickenbacker basses were 33-1/2" scale. In fact their older literature states this scale measurement. Recently, I checked out the Rickenbacker website and the basses are now listed with a 33-1/4" scale. Did Rickenbacker recently shorted the length of their bass scales by 1/4"?

Answer: No, the scale is the same. This is the difference between the old method of measuring scales vs. a more modern, and I hope enlightened, method. In the past, the scale length was measured from the inside edge of the nut to the average of plus and minus bridge adjustment. This takes into account that some strings maybe be adjusted longer than "scale" and others shorter to intonate properly. Now most companies, including ourselves, measure from the inside edge of the nut to the inside edge of the12th fret and double it, which is more theoretically precise number.

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Subject: Left Handed Rickenbacker Basses

Date: 1999/09/09

Question: It is true that all left-handed rickenbacker basses come with a right-handed headstock and left-handed logo?

Answer: No this is not correct. For many years now we've produced mirror image lefties. There are a couple of parts, such as the -R- tailpiece, that don't have a left-hand equivalent, but for the most part they're left-handed all the way. That, of course, is precisely why the 4001v63PMC Stock Keeping Unit's exist as this bass is the exception and made the original way.

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Subject: Paul McCartney's 4001S and Zero Fret

Date: 1999/07/26

Comment: Check out "the Bass Book", which is one of those small Miller/Freeman books written by Tony Bacon. Page 33 has a nice shot of Paul's bass with zero fret.

Answer: Indeed, this is the clearest shot of the bass I've seen and the zero fret is as big as life. This is a complete mystery to me, as the bass has been back here twice for service that I know of and I can't believe I didn't see this. The last time was toward the end of last year, as I recall. Somewhere we have some photos of the bass on it's earlier visit, which I scanned for someone awhile back. I'm dying to locate these and see if I'm going blind or something. Anyway, I've sent a fax to Paul's studio to see if I can get John Hammel, his assistant, to clue us in on this. (I don't expect a prompt answer on this, by the way.) John called me several months ago to get a new case and also a handful of new nuts for this. I sent him a selection of nuts, made from white Delrin, black Bakelite, black melamine, and gray graphalon so that he could pick and choose. It would be nice to know what the choice was. It would have been relatively difficult to modify the bass this way as there is no fingerboard to put the fret into, but I can think of several ways to do this. Nevertheless, I can't see any particular benefit to this, but certainly it's his bass to experiment with.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4000 and 4001 Bass

Date: 1999/02/10

Question: Could you tell us if the routing for wiring on the Rick 4000 and the 4001s were the same?

Answer: The 4000 has quite a bit less routing on it, as there was no necessity.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4005 Bass

Date: 1998/10/04

Question: I recently read that you made a 4005 bass for Mark Hudson. What are the chances of the 4005 and 4005WB making a much anticipated return to the Rickenbacker line-up?

Answer: Unfortunately, until we work the present backlog down considerably, the chance of anything "new" in the line are pretty slim. But we're working pretty hard to build additional capacity, with just such products in mind.

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Subject: Back-Order for Rickenbacker Model 4003 Bass

Date: 1998/09/15

Question: I've read a few posts discussing a year (or so) wait for Ric guitars. I was wondering what the waiting period would run, vaguely, for a new 4003 bass. Mr. Hall?

Answer: For a new dealer order, it's in the range of 9 to 12 months. But bear in mind that the larger chains anticipate demand and order for stock; some of these stores might be able to deliver immediately.

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Subject: Paul McCartney's Rickenbacker Basses!

Date: 1998/08/28

Question: This may sound awfully silly, but does this mean that the first production 4004C was a LEFTY? That just might be a first in the industry!

Answer: The first 4004C was indeed a left-handed instrument, since I intended this only as a Christmas gift for Paul. But it was a nice bass and we decided to go into production with it. The first production unit, which I still have here, is right-handed. So . . . I guess the answer to your question is "yes and no"!

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Subject: Customized Rickenbacker Model 4003/S8 Bass

Date: 1998/01/30

Question: I would really like to order an 8 string bass just like Squire's model he used on GFTO, that is: white finish, black body binding (nameplate & pickguard), chrome hardware, 4005-8 headstock, Glover machine heads.

Answer: Regretfully, we are not doing any custom work right now. Maybe if we can catch up a bit it might be possible.

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Subject: Rick 4003: "redesigned" 4001?

Date: 1998/03/24

Question: So could someone tell me what were the design changes that allowed for the accomodation of roundwounds? To me I'd imagine different fret material, but Smith's book mentions different wood laminations.

Answer: A completely new truss rod system was designed for the 4003 (and subsequently all Ricks). While it is somewhat stronger, the main feature is adjustability and how intuitive it is. The old system was actually quite good, and I notice a number of makers now using something like our old system, but you really had to know how to make adjustments. Not doing it right damaged many otherwise perfectly good basses. The newer system allows as much as 3/8" of over- and under-bow at the 12th fret, no matter how heavy the string. Also, two new laminations with reversed back-to-back wood grain, which you cannot see in the completed bass, increase the static strength of the neck. The fret wire was never changed, as we have always used the hardest alloy available. An almost pure iron string like the Rotosound is going to wear any fret material away more than, say, a nickel alloy string will.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4001 Bass

Date: 1998/01/23

Question: It's funny, I've never owned an autumn glo but every time I think of getting another 4001, that's the color I picture...

Answer: Unfortunately, there were about three different shades of Autumnglo produced over the years. The first one, circa '57, was like a Fireglo surrounded by a brown edge. The second, during the late 50's and through into the 60's was more like a very dark Fireglo. The last one, in the 70's, was kind of, for lack of a better description, a baby poop brown with a matte surface. So, while dreaming, take your pick! (My personal preference is the first type.)

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 1982 4003SB (V63 prototype)

Date: 1998/01/22

Question: To John Hall or anyone who may really know. What was the story behind the 4003sb? I still have a flyer showing this model and the Lennon, as well as the Harrison models offered in a color ad by Rickenbacker. I have the bass and was wondering about production on these? (how many? how long produced? different features?) Is this model now rare? Mine has the bass toaster pickup, no binding, dots, plexiglass nameplate, but it is stereo, and has the stock treble pickup, not horshoe. It is kind of a hybrid between a 4001S and V63.... any info????

Answer: It's been said that these instruments are notable as the first vintage reissue models made by any manufacturer. Whether that's entirely true, I don't really know, but all of these "B" models were available only for about a year circa 1979-1980. While they are as good as any other instrument produced from a quality and playability standpoint, they're not terribly accurate as vintage reissues. I was out of the company during this one year, and some not too bright soul was charged with the job of creating such a model line up and unfortunately my father, partly due to his age and fragile health, didn't validate the offerings too critically. (In fairness, the concept of "vintage reissue" was new and no one probably knew how much accuracy was appropriate.) Anyway, when I returned at the beginning of 1981, I made the appropriate adjustments leading to the models we have today, and sent the fellow responsible for these for a well deserved winter vacation in Greenland. Fortunately, relatively few were produced, and this fact alone may make them somewhat collectable. Again, they're nice, quality instruments but they missed the intended mark by a kilometer.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4002 Bass

Date: 1998/01/16

Question: Just thought you might like to know. I spotted a 4002 on "8-Track Flashback" tonight. David Cassidy is the host, and he was doing a show on the solo Beatles. It was in the background with a Les Paul, a 60's Epi Sheraton (nice), and an Epiphone Viola Bass. It was Fireglo with black guards and appeared to be very very nice, indeed.

Answer: Sure it was a 4002? We only produced those in Walnut and Maple finishes. The ebony fingerboard would be the most noticeable difference, if the pickups were not visible (or were transplanted from another 4002). These basses are as rare as hen's teeth, since so few were produced.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Lefty Model 4003 Bass

Date: 1998/02/11

Question: My brother just picked up a gorgeous left-handed 4003 in pristine condition at an incredible price. But we noticed something wierd about it. In all the photos I've ever seen of left handed 4000's, they always have had the same headstock and truss rod cover shape as right-handed necks. The only difference is they've had the Rickenbacker truss rod cover with the writing starting at the top instead of at the nut.

Answer: Older lefties were made with right hand necks and the somewhat strange looking name plate as on Paul McCartney's bass. In approximately 1984, I told the factory that left-hand players deserved a true right hand instrument and we began making fully mirror image units (except for the R-tailpiece). However . . . for the Japanese market only, we make lefty 4001V63's in the old way, just like Paul's, as they seem to be more than fanatic about having a perfect copy.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Customized Model 4003/S8 Bass

Date: 1998/02/01

Question: This answer does beg the question--how far behind is RIC? I know, I know, you probably cannot answer that. It's one of those nice little frustrating things where you want to see more RIC products out in public for sale (especially out on the East Coast, where I have yet to see a Laredo or Cheyenne in the DC area), and yet you don't want to push it, since adding more people many times leads to a diminishment of quality.

Answer: We're about 9 months backlogged (at least before the NAMM show which is currently in progess). There are a few models, like the 381 series, that are more like a year behind due to the requirements for premium Maple. It's just a matter of hiring more people to make more product. . . it's a whole system thing including components, machine time, floor scheduling, etc. that has to be brought together, especially if quality is to be maintained or improved.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4003: The "Redesigned" 4001 Bass

Date: 1998/03/24

Question: So could someone tell me what were the design changes that allowed for the accomidation of roundwounds? To me I'd imagine different fret material, but Smith's book mentions different wood laminations.

Answer: A completely new truss rod system was designed for the 4003 (and subsequently all Ricks). While it is somewhat stronger, the main feature is adjustability and how intuitive it is. The old system was actually quite good, and I notice a number of makers now using something like our old system, but you really had to know how to make adjustments. Not doing it right damaged many otherwise perfectly good basses. The newer system allows as much as 3/8" of over- and under-bow at the 12th fret, no matter how heavy the string. Also, two new laminations with reversed back-to-back wood grain, which you cannot see in the completed bass, increase the static strength of the neck. The fret wire was never changed, as we have always used the hardest alloy available. An almost pure iron string like the Rotosound is going to wear any fret material away more than, say, a nickel alloy string will.

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Subject: Rickenbacker Model 4001 or 4003 Bass. Which is it?

Date: 1998/03/13

Question: Your previous remarks concerningthr production dates of 4001, 4001S, and 4003 were as follows:
4001 - '61 to '86
4001S - '61 to '69, and '80 to '84
4003 (1st version) - '79 to '84:
truss-rod adjuster at body end and two-piece pickguard
4003 (2nd version) - '84 to current:
truss-rod adjuster at headstock
Am I reading this wrong then? You said this information is correct and 4001 and 4003 were never in simultaneous production. But don't the dates here say the 4001 was from '61 to '86 and the 4003 was from '79 to present?

Answer: Sorry, I didn't notice this error before. The 4001 ended sometime during 1980, maybe even '81. That overlaps too, but that's the difference between the catalog or price list dates which reflect inventory, and actual production dates. Without a doubt there are even a few 4001's with later serial number dates, which would been "stragglers" through the production process or "clear off the shelf" goods.

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Subject: McCartney's Model 4001 - Rickenbacker's Finest Year?

Date: 1998/03/23

Question: OH! I hate his sound so much on that album. He's playing that Rick and it sounds so "ploddy" to me. I think it's because he's got his amp set in what would be the reverse-smily-face EQ. I think the reason why it bothers me so much is because it's the antithesis of Squire's sound which is what my ears consider to be THE Rick bass sound.

Answer: Paul McCartney has always insisted on using those German-made flat wound strings on his instruments, while the rest of the world had (and since) moved on to strings with some ring. Just as simple as that.



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