JOHN LENNON'S 325 RESTORATION--WHAT CAN WE LEARN?

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Postby (scoobster28) » Wed May 23, 2018 4:20 pm

johnhall wrote:There's some very specific info circulating on this topic that's just too detailed to ignore. We're talking about important names, dates, specific circumstances, independent sources, and motives.

I really hope someday some of the parties involved will step out of the shadows. The most important one will need an English translator, however.


Bumping up a really old thread, but in light of the passage of time does anyone have more information on Lennon's first 325 and where it is today. And is it available to view publicly?
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Re: JOHN LENNON'S 325 RESTORATION--WHAT CAN WE LEARN?

Postby (simer4001) » Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:10 pm

I believe both his 325’s are at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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Re: JOHN LENNON'S 325 RESTORATION--WHAT CAN WE LEARN?

Postby (simer4001) » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:57 pm

Paul, if you recall I reached out to Yoko to try and get her to restore his 325’s properly. To no avail.
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Re: JOHN LENNON'S 325 RESTORATION--WHAT CAN WE LEARN?

Postby (Faith1) » Wed Jul 07, 2021 3:47 pm

Where as fakes, copies or clones of the 58 is not beyond the realm of possibilities. Wood grain will be a dead give away; that any of those instruments are not the John played Rickenbacker. I’m not convinced this was ever done, as one will have to get the grain to match as exact as possible; else wise the illusion is shattered. Wood being organic, such an exacting match could take lifetimes to perfect. Not to mention various trademarks and patents one would have to get various permissions to do all this stuff, as in the case of the Ric branding in the tuners or having the Bigsby remade because John’s is 3% smaller then U.S. made B5’s. As for why it might be done. It could have been for insurance reasons or perhaps to play a shell game with potential thieves and other ne’er do wells. I can think of a few other reasons. This guitar could well be worth millions to a private collector. The catch would be you could never tell anyone you had it. Ever. I find the idea of such items intriguing. Too many people would know these Yokobackers were being made to keep it a secret. It would appear on somebody’s books as ordered parts or lumber. It could even be conversations about wiring or truss rod material. That said, if I were to have those Yokobackers made, Japan is one of the few places in the World I’d go to do it.

Paul as good as your thesis is, it may still lack consideration of all the variables. The photograph of the the 58 was taken when people were still using film. The film’s chrome has a big impact on how the finished shot looks to say nothing of the chemicals on the photo paper. Having a neutral chroma key would have helped a great deal also. The lightings tint will also impact the result, yellow light or white lighting. Some of these elements would figure massively in to the equation, others not so much. Alas these are variables never the less.

I most certainly do think the wood has patinated. It’s plausible the dust or discolouration you noted by the bridge and other places could be air pockets where the finish is separating from the guitar. I have three Ric’s at present two of them have such separations due to expansion and contractions. My Ric’s are of various age, those separations are in various locations.

It’s my understanding the last refurbishment was meant to get the 58 back to “show room fresh” condition. Since Mister DiMarino through no fault of his own; didn’t comply with those wishes such a refurbishment could still be on the table as it meets the letter and spirit of what John said.

I’ll make no argument against this instrument being preserved. (At the very least with a golden pick plate alas, My wishes don’t amount to a hill of beans.) It should I think be well cared for with it being taken out regularly for cleaning and restringing. Perhaps having the rust dealt with; as that is metal returning to the Earth.


The only way to know for sure, the only way to know for certain is to ask Yoko to inspect and photograph the 58 in detail. Which now with high resolution photographs would be advantageous for those seeking to preserve what the 58 looks like today.
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