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Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:22 pm
by sloop_john_b
I've had to adjust the rods on my
v68 several times over the past year or so, and recently noticed something alarming about the E/A side rod nut:
Here's how the other end looks:
I'm concerned that i've just about run out of adjustment room on the E/A side. What do you guys think - might it need a truss rod replacement?
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:37 pm
by johnallg
John, if you look closely at the E A side rod at the body end, you will see it is pulling up into the neck wood. I believe PW has stated the fix is to drill the hole a bit bigger, put in a dowel section, then redrill for the rod. I believe this is what is happening to your V68.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:40 pm
by sloop_john_b
Thanks John. Wanna do it for me?
Is this something I shouldn't let go unfixed for a while?
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:45 pm
by johnallg
Since you've said over the last year you continue to have to tighten the rod, it will continue. Eventually (from the pic I'd say soon) you will run out of adjustment. I would contact Paul, Dale, or Ted about it. I personally would not attempt this on my own bass, so definitely not on yours.

Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:03 pm
by jps
You will also see that the plate in the headstock cavity is sinking into the neck as the E/A TR nut is not sticking out from the string nut as much as the D/G TR nut.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:35 pm
by johnallg
I saw that Jeff, but thought it was due to a whole lot more pressure on the left rod than on the right rod. It would be interesting to see how the neck lays with no string or rod pressures.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:51 pm
by rickenbrother
I think John A is right, but I would also be curious to see the condition of the plate and the wood behind it.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:43 am
by chefothefuture
John Hall has said that if you drip super glue gel into the hole at the anchor end(with rod out)
and are carful only to apply to the anchor area, the super glue will harden the wood so that it will
bare the pressure. Then you can take washers(an odd size that I found at Cole's Power Models)
and place them in the anchor end to get the rods even at the adjusting end.
You need to use a high quality super glue gel, available from a hobby shop or Stew-Mac.
Gee, I hope that made some sense......
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:42 am
by jps
... that is correct, as John has told me about that application, also.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:17 pm
by ken_j
chefothefuture wrote:John Hall has said that if you drip super glue gel into the hole at the anchor end(with rod out)
and are carful only to apply to the anchor area, the super glue will harden the wood so that it will
bare the pressure. Then you can take washers(an odd size that I found at Cole's Power Models)
and place them in the anchor end to get the rods even at the adjusting end.
You need to use a high quality super glue gel, available from a hobby shop or Stew-Mac.
Gee, I hope that made some sense......
In addition to this I would fabricate a new truss rod spacer more like the early version. This would distribute the pressure to a larger area.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:29 am
by jingle_jangle
The super glue fix is one I've used myself on one or two occasions, BUT I use it in conjunction with a stack of washers on the rod, at the body end, to take up the slack and equalize the length once again.
This situation--of the nut pulling up into the neck--is a function both of tightening the nut repeatedly, and of a slightly softer piece of neck maple. Nothing to be concerned about. Maple does vary in hardness. This softness on one side of the neck could also explain why it needed more frequent adjustment than the other side.
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 6:38 pm
by billydlight
D'oh Did not realize how old this post was!
Re: Truss rod diagnosis needed
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:48 pm
by jingle_jangle
It's an old thread, but a proven solution that I've used many times since.
In extreme cases, a strip of brass, hard (T6) aluminum, or steel can be used at the body end, too.