"Ebony & Ivory" bass?

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:28 am

I noticed...that's why we get along so well.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:33 am

sung to the tune of 'you-know-what'...

"you're a Pole, and I'm a Swede...
you design hot cars, and I smoke ****..."

how's that for deplorable?

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:47 pm

That is a cool bass though.
Ebony and Ivory just sorely pointed out the fact that McCartney needed Lennon to keep him away from making utterly worthless commercial dreck. I would rather listen to Carpenters outtakes than that. In fact I've heard much better music in many commercials, sorry Alex, I calls em the ways I sees em.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:10 pm

I think that Bob, Dane and yours truly all hold Sir Paul in high regard...

There's a definition of pornography which holds that it must have "no redeeming social value."

Uh-oh.

No doubt Macca's tunes are memorable and listenable. But as for social value...I really can't find anything redeeming about the lyrics.

Alex is mostly right. It's good time music. But no social conscience.

I'll get down off my soapbox now. The Girl is Mine. I'm a lover, not a fighter. Etc., etc.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm

Paul, are you insinuating that the vast majority of Paul's songs are pornographic?

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:24 pm

Except for "Why Don't We Do It In The Road"....the redeeming social value of that one is beyond debate...

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:46 pm

Bingo, Dane, you stepped on my line.

Bob: Har. Ahem. Nope, just "fluffy".

roadrunners · Post by **roadrunners** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:56 pm

I just dont think that any song is capable of being called "The worst" someone took time to write that you know!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:21 pm

Alex, time spent doing something is only distantly related to the quality of what is done.

There's a lot of **** in many different fields of endeavor, that took a lot of time to generate.

That time was wasted, in general. But that's an absolutist view, and everything is shades of gray and in-betweens.

Ever hear of "Heaven's Gate"?

route66guitars · Post by **route66guitars** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:57 pm

The guy's published somewhere in the range of 400 songs. Close to 10% of them were in the singles charts, close to half were on albums/CDs that also made it into the charts.

That's a lot of lyrics to write.

There's still a little room left on my iPod for songs with great lyrics written by members of this forum. Where can I buy your CDs?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:21 am

Scott:

Sorry if we irritated you...

Is our failing in the fact that we have opinions or in that we chose to express them?

Quantity and quality have no correlation. Neither do popularity and quality.

"Admiral Halsey notified me
He had to have a berth or he couldn't get to sea" (etc.)

A cute schoolboy rhyme, but still doggerel, and this from one of my generation's "greatest" musicians?

roadrunners · Post by **roadrunners** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:44 am

Dont get started on that classic now!~

route66guitars · Post by **route66guitars** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:28 am

I'm interested in you qualifying your opinion.

Let's read your lyrics. Seriously. You've had your entire life to come up with something better than PM's published song #342, so share it with us.

Let's hear what lyrics (by anyone, including yourself) you think are 'quality.'

If you are going to present yourself as a critic we should know something of your critical standards.

dogÂ·gerÂ·elÂ (dï¿½gr-l, dgr-) also dogÂ·grel (dï¿½grl, dg-)
n. Crudely or irregularly fashioned verse, often of a humorous or burlesque nature.

You may not like the line you quoted, but by definition it is not 'doggerel.'

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:06 am

Don't have to qualify anything, Scott. Opinions are like fingernails; everybody's got 'em. It wasn't you I was attacking, so don't take it so personally.

And, by your definition, the quoted song IS doggerel. Humorous and crude.

Just my opinion, of course.

circles · Post by **circles** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:20 am

Scott, since Britney Spears has also had had great success in the Billboard charts, is she a lyrical genius? Would you listen to her if she said ebony and ivory was ****?