Nowhere Man Chord

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:52 pm

Doug, you misread my reply!

i was addressing the "substitution of the A maj for the F#m7" part of the reply to you, and the substitution of the Am with an A maj to Patrick (third post in this thread). Read his post on the previous page.

Yes, the structure of the F#m7 chord as you call it out, makes perfect sense, but doesn't sound right with the guitarist playing an Amaj and the bassist providing the F#. Guitarist should play an F#m7 chord.

dougp · Post by **dougp** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:04 pm

Paul, yes, you're correct that they're different *voicings* of the same chord, which can sometimes radically alter the sound of the chord (or at least the listener's perception of the chord). In the same way that playing root chords vs. barre chords (or even different barre formations of the same chord in different spots on the neck) can radically change the sound of a chord or chord progression.

I was thinking more in terms of general music theory than an exact reproduction of the recorded performance (like Bob, I enjoy throwing in inversions & other chord substitutions, or otherwise modifying cover versions, but it's not appropriate to do that for an "exact" copy of a song; sort of the "tribute band" vs. "cover band" issue ... in fact I'm confronting the which-position-for-barre-chords issue in a tribute band I'm currently playing in).

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:24 pm

Gotcha 100%. I was coming from an "authenticity" mood...what you're saying is true, but you really need that m7 to set it up properly. In my mind, it's straying too far from the mood to substitute as we've been hashing. Just my opinion, Doug. Thanks for taking this stroll down Music Theory 101 Lane with me!

britye · Post by **britye** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:05 pm

Just popped in Rob Taylor's Beatles to a Tee DVD he shows E B A E
F#M AM/C Sounds right to me

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:07 pm

I'm pretty lucky I haven't played in a legitimate cover band for many years if ever and only played in a Beatle cover band for a little while, but it is sacriledge to change a Beatle song to me except in a few rare cases. Of course then again I haven't made a heck of a lot of money playing either.

britye · Post by **britye** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:23 pm

I'm just a novice when it comes to playing. I learn the chords and pluck along best I can. Thought I hit the mother lode with Rob's videos. Now I wish I could find some guys that are as fanatic about learning and playing Beatles stuff as I am. No where man is a great song

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:54 pm

We're here, Brian.

rickinroma · Post by **rickinroma** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:59 pm

F#m7 Am E
it sounds this way for Eyetalian ears too

roadrunners · Post by **roadrunners** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:59 am

this is interesting......I was just watching another video.....and george plays the F#M.....but john in one shot is playing A.....interesting....im gonna research this matter

javert · Post by **javert** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:06 am

Brian: No Beatle people in Florida? Come to Maine, there's a bucket-full of us Beatle-players up here! Ayuh! Wicked good!

britye · Post by **britye** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:12 am

Thanks Paul, I know you guys are here and I'm learning a lot by hanging out here. Mark, I'm sure there are Beatle people here in Fl. But does not seem to be in my neck of the woods, Englewood and West Charlotte County. I really can't travel too far on a regular basis. When I talk about the Beatles, it's "yea man they were good" it's a younger crowd around here. I'm 49 and metal ain't my thing.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:30 am

Alex that is done quite often, gives depth to a band, makes the sound more complex. That is the same thing we were talking about with the bass playing the F# along with the guitar playing the A, changes the character of the chord.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:02 am

Following up on the Nowhere Man chord, what is the first chord played before the intro riff? I make it Esus4.

roadrunners · Post by **roadrunners** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:29 am

I play the actual riff....so I dont know....but live....in the same video that i first saw george play the F#m.....it seems like they are both playing the riff.....one might want to check that out....Its in anthology 6? i think

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:32 am

My question would be, if George played the riff, did he not also play the chord just before it?