Horseshoe/Hi-Gain Swap
Moderator: jingle_jangle
Horseshoe/Hi-Gain Swap
Mr. Arnquist:
I just put an order in for a reissue Horseshoe PU to swap with the Hi-Gain Treble PU in my 4001. Since I'm not really good with soldering such modifications, would you take care of this for me? You can email me at [email protected]
for the best time for me to send this to you.
I just put an order in for a reissue Horseshoe PU to swap with the Hi-Gain Treble PU in my 4001. Since I'm not really good with soldering such modifications, would you take care of this for me? You can email me at [email protected]
for the best time for me to send this to you.
I can't imagine why there isn't a repair person in Buffalo who could do this for you.
The cost of shipping alone is almost the same as the pickup.
Before you do this , ask around who does good repair work ...see who the Seymour Duncan dealers are , and find a shop that has been around for 5 or more years .These guys swap out pickups all the time.
Or , go to Radio Shack and buy a soldering iron and a small quantity of solder .
You only need , a #1 Phillips headed screwdriver and the iron to do this job.
The strings need to be off the bass , then remove the guard , just flip it over .The lead for the bridge pickup will be obvious .
The HOT connection goes to the lug on the switch .
The Ground/Earth/Shield wire goes to the neck pickup Volume control on the 'can' of the pot.
Reassemble . and that is it! For the cost of the screwdriver and iron , you spent less than shipping and insurance .
I know you can do this .
Need more help ....just say the word.
The cost of shipping alone is almost the same as the pickup.
Before you do this , ask around who does good repair work ...see who the Seymour Duncan dealers are , and find a shop that has been around for 5 or more years .These guys swap out pickups all the time.
Or , go to Radio Shack and buy a soldering iron and a small quantity of solder .
You only need , a #1 Phillips headed screwdriver and the iron to do this job.
The strings need to be off the bass , then remove the guard , just flip it over .The lead for the bridge pickup will be obvious .
The HOT connection goes to the lug on the switch .
The Ground/Earth/Shield wire goes to the neck pickup Volume control on the 'can' of the pot.
Reassemble . and that is it! For the cost of the screwdriver and iron , you spent less than shipping and insurance .
I know you can do this .
Need more help ....just say the word.
So you too want yours "ALAPWOB"?!?!
Rob,
I just switched out both on my 4003S, which now looks like a 4001S! It's easy. Just remember, with the iron, heat the wire, not the solder- that was a big revelation for me!
I might also point out that, I ended up raising the Toaster all the way against the grommets and, even with the capacitor installed, had to lower the Horseshoe to get a clean, powerful ,balanced sound. Leave the Horseshoe too close to the strings, and your notes won't sound right.
Lastly, given the power of the Horseshoe Pickup, DON'T leave off the capacitor. The pickup has Major Power to Spare!
Best of Luck.
Garry
I just switched out both on my 4003S, which now looks like a 4001S! It's easy. Just remember, with the iron, heat the wire, not the solder- that was a big revelation for me!
I might also point out that, I ended up raising the Toaster all the way against the grommets and, even with the capacitor installed, had to lower the Horseshoe to get a clean, powerful ,balanced sound. Leave the Horseshoe too close to the strings, and your notes won't sound right.
Lastly, given the power of the Horseshoe Pickup, DON'T leave off the capacitor. The pickup has Major Power to Spare!
Best of Luck.
Garry
The ideal mix leaves the bass player louder than the rest of the band put together!
That's it? Only two wires to connect? For some reason I thought there were at least one or two more. I think I'll have someone with a little more knowledge look on with me. I know that this is a simple job, but since this is my "prized possession" I tend to get shakey when I start disconnecting wires. I don't want to end up kicking myself if it turns out that I flopped. Well, if I do, you'll hear from me.
I just got my horseshoe in yesterday, and a friend helped me put it in. (Well, he only held the ground wire to the pot while my two hands were soldering it. But, that's enough to say he helped!) It sounds a helluva lot more brighter than the old hi-gain! I think I've done right by swapping that pickup. That hi-gain seemed to have lacked in power, compared to the one in my 4003. I wonder why that is? Could it be the age, and/or the amount of use? Or could it be the manufacturing process changed since mine was made in 1976?
Anyway, I think I'll have more fun annoying my neighbors now, with this new PU installed!
Anyway, I think I'll have more fun annoying my neighbors now, with this new PU installed!
Now for the fun part…
Getcha a Dremel, get online to rhoadsmusic.com, get Jim's #, call Jim, and order a 4001V63 pickguard, a Toaster Pickup, and Vintage knobs. Oh, BTW, tell Jim I sent you.
Strip the front of your bass AGAIN, and with the Dremel, rout about 3/4" by 3/4" towards the neck, and deep. Before mounting the Toaster on the V63 guard, take each rubber grommet off, slit it in half, and reinstall only half of each. You will notice these are the same grommets used under 330 thru 360 pickups; anyway, this allows you to get the neck pickup as high as you safely can.
With this all done, Rob, you will have a bass you can play with pride!!
One closing ??: you DID install the cap, didn't you?
Garry
Getcha a Dremel, get online to rhoadsmusic.com, get Jim's #, call Jim, and order a 4001V63 pickguard, a Toaster Pickup, and Vintage knobs. Oh, BTW, tell Jim I sent you.
Strip the front of your bass AGAIN, and with the Dremel, rout about 3/4" by 3/4" towards the neck, and deep. Before mounting the Toaster on the V63 guard, take each rubber grommet off, slit it in half, and reinstall only half of each. You will notice these are the same grommets used under 330 thru 360 pickups; anyway, this allows you to get the neck pickup as high as you safely can.
With this all done, Rob, you will have a bass you can play with pride!!
One closing ??: you DID install the cap, didn't you?
Garry
The ideal mix leaves the bass player louder than the rest of the band put together!
I left the cap the way it was; I never had to disconnect it. The only thing I didn't do, although it's not a big deal, is I didn't use the horseshoe's chrome surround. I still kept the one for the hi-gain because I didn't feel like drilling new holes to put on the new one. I think for now this will be all the modification I'll do. If I had the money, I think I'll buy a real V63, instead of owning a clone.
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Unfortunately, I'm not able to post photos, due to not having a camera. I'll have to borrow a friend of mine's. Once I spend a day with him, I'll be hopefully able to post the pictures of the 4001 we took last year, and how it is today. Therefore, I can have before and after photos. Until then, I don't know. As far as it sounds like, you'd have to plug one in and hear for yourself. It is a very unique sounding pickup.
