*drools*
http://mrbigsite.com/audio/billy/Billy%20Sheehan%20-%20Bass%20Solo%202.mp3
That is insane!
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Jeff - my recent gig openiung for a Rush tribute band was an eye opener. First of all, the **** these guys had to set up and KNOW how to use...then as you state, the challenging technical aspects of the songs: odd time signatures, very dificult passages, and in the case of Rush frequent odd harmony and structures.
I love listening to it, but if I were to play a Rush tune (and I have done a few), it certainly is NOT to try and sound like Rush. Sure, I want people to recognize the tune, and I want to do it well, but I don't want to do note for note. I strive for more of that Who vibe...
Nathan East, Felix Pappalardi, Allen Woody...all great players. Some of the guys who played for Zappa over the years (Patrick O'Hearn come to mind) were MONSTERS.
Ronn...I understand your point that this sort of discussion is pointless...sort of. It is cool to hear other people's ideas and preferences. It takes all types, and I think the range of players/styles that the "Rickenbacker" crowd likes shows that Ricks are certainly not just the Geddy/Squire type sound and useful for "prog rock".
Heck, just comparing McCartney's sound/style to Yes and Rush should clue the Rick-haters in! LOL
I love listening to it, but if I were to play a Rush tune (and I have done a few), it certainly is NOT to try and sound like Rush. Sure, I want people to recognize the tune, and I want to do it well, but I don't want to do note for note. I strive for more of that Who vibe...
Nathan East, Felix Pappalardi, Allen Woody...all great players. Some of the guys who played for Zappa over the years (Patrick O'Hearn come to mind) were MONSTERS.
Ronn...I understand your point that this sort of discussion is pointless...sort of. It is cool to hear other people's ideas and preferences. It takes all types, and I think the range of players/styles that the "Rickenbacker" crowd likes shows that Ricks are certainly not just the Geddy/Squire type sound and useful for "prog rock".
Heck, just comparing McCartney's sound/style to Yes and Rush should clue the Rick-haters in! LOL
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If anyone listened to the Billy Sheehan thing.. is he playing Geddy's Wal?!
Duhh.. meant to put this here with it...
http://www.billysheehan.com/audio/rushsoundcheck_hi.ram
Duhh.. meant to put this here with it...
http://www.billysheehan.com/audio/rushsoundcheck_hi.ram
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Sorry guys, that aint bass playing to me. Where's the warmth and feeling? It's like a low register '80s lead guitar all tapping and doubling and junk. Like Victor Wooten, incredible talent and a humbling listen, but I can't tap my foot to it and you can't hum the line in the shower.
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Of course the second link I put doesn't work...
Sure Billy sounds like 80's guitar.. I like it though. My family listens to alot of 80's metal and my uncle is in a "hairband".. he wears a wig and plays 80's covers with his band.. he's better than the normal songs most of the time.
That CTTH solo is from Different Stages.. by far the best one. Ged's one finger strum is impressive.
Sure Billy sounds like 80's guitar.. I like it though. My family listens to alot of 80's metal and my uncle is in a "hairband".. he wears a wig and plays 80's covers with his band.. he's better than the normal songs most of the time.
That CTTH solo is from Different Stages.. by far the best one. Ged's one finger strum is impressive.
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I'm coming in a little late on the conversation, but...
I did a bit of research on Jamerson when we first acquired his upright bass.
Jamerson played on all of the Detroit Motown sessions until Babbitt was brought on board. That means everything pre-1968 or so that was recorded in Detroit is Jamerson. In some cases playing both his P-Bass and upright on the same track. Where Ms. Kaye gets confused, and it is her that is confused, is that she worked in L.A. on many of the remakes of Motowns hits. Motown was/is a publishing company as well as a record company, so any song that proved to be a hit was re-recorded for other Motown artists to sing - thus providing another revenue stream from the song. She played bass on many of these remakes. Occasionally songs were re-made in Detroit, and these were usually done by Jamerson. This is interesting, as you'll find that his playing would by wildly different on what was essentially the same song played again by the same session musicians only months later
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I would have thought Macca would have made the list for 'Hey Bulldog' or '...Me and My Monkey" or another of his beautiful oddly syncopated tracks... but that's just me.
I did a bit of research on Jamerson when we first acquired his upright bass.
Jamerson played on all of the Detroit Motown sessions until Babbitt was brought on board. That means everything pre-1968 or so that was recorded in Detroit is Jamerson. In some cases playing both his P-Bass and upright on the same track. Where Ms. Kaye gets confused, and it is her that is confused, is that she worked in L.A. on many of the remakes of Motowns hits. Motown was/is a publishing company as well as a record company, so any song that proved to be a hit was re-recorded for other Motown artists to sing - thus providing another revenue stream from the song. She played bass on many of these remakes. Occasionally songs were re-made in Detroit, and these were usually done by Jamerson. This is interesting, as you'll find that his playing would by wildly different on what was essentially the same song played again by the same session musicians only months later
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I would have thought Macca would have made the list for 'Hey Bulldog' or '...Me and My Monkey" or another of his beautiful oddly syncopated tracks... but that's just me.
My idea of a perfect bass part? "Go Your Own Way" by Fleetwood Mac. Or the aforementioned "Tears of a Clown".....almost anything by Bow Wow Wow....pretty much anything off the first 3 Jamiroquai albums.....most of the Yes/Rush/Who back catalogue...."Stone Dead Forever"....Lopsy Lu by Stanley Clarke....Fascinating Rhythm by William Orbit...Chinese Way by Level 42.....and about a gazillion others...
3 parts that really stand out for me though are the low part in "The Fish" (Mr Squire take a bow), the fast part in the live "Badia/Boogie Woogie Waltz Medley" from Weather Report's 8:30 (thank you Mr Pastorius) and Didjital Vibrations by Jamiroquai (the excellent Stuart Zender), all of which have a kind of Zen-like quality. Anybody mentioned Bernard Edwards or Rutger Gunnarson? I know someone mentioned Gary Thain, who is sadly underrated.....I think there are thousands of great parts and players. Oh, and a nod too to Adam Clayton and Cliff Williams, who though the opposite of what I normally go for, fit their respective bands like a glove.
3 parts that really stand out for me though are the low part in "The Fish" (Mr Squire take a bow), the fast part in the live "Badia/Boogie Woogie Waltz Medley" from Weather Report's 8:30 (thank you Mr Pastorius) and Didjital Vibrations by Jamiroquai (the excellent Stuart Zender), all of which have a kind of Zen-like quality. Anybody mentioned Bernard Edwards or Rutger Gunnarson? I know someone mentioned Gary Thain, who is sadly underrated.....I think there are thousands of great parts and players. Oh, and a nod too to Adam Clayton and Cliff Williams, who though the opposite of what I normally go for, fit their respective bands like a glove.
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