When I first heard them, it was like the first time I heard Appetite for Destruction, it was like, WOW.BTW... Johnny Rotten is 50 today...
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The first three punk albums I bought in '77 were the Pistols 'Never Mind The ********', the Ramones 'Rocket To Russia', and the Dead Boys 'Young, Loud And Snotty'. They were all meant to be played loud!
Before the year was out, my tastes shifted and I bought Elvis Costello 'My Aim Is True' and the Jam 'In The City'. I still listen to this music on a regular basis.
Before the year was out, my tastes shifted and I bought Elvis Costello 'My Aim Is True' and the Jam 'In The City'. I still listen to this music on a regular basis.
This month has been full of interesting revelations for me...including the fact that I'm a month younger than Bill Maher and John Lydon. It's all starting to make sense to me now...
In the mid seventies I was still completely enamored with the materialism of musical 'chops', and way into the 'prog' bands of the time...it was a rude shock for people like me to be confronted by the musical/social revolution that we now call Punk. My initial reaction was to consider the punks as "wankers who couldn't play"...over time, and with more exposure to the politics and philosophy behind the 'movement', I began to realize that a lot of the musicians I had been revering as if they were gods were in fact "wankers who could play"...
My opinion of 'Johnny Rotten' made the full transition from disgust to respect the night I saw him perform with PIL at Red Rocks...that band, the show, and Mr. Lydon just blew me away. It's always a good feeling when a part of your mind that was closed suddenly opens up...
And now, on to the 'retort' portion of this post:
"NEVER TRUST A HIPPIE."...
Ouch, Ronn...that smarts! I know what you're getting at, though...but I'd have to say I've met plenty of PUNKS I'd never trust, either.
Just for the record: gimme hippies and punks over WHITE MEN IN BUSINESS SUITS any day...
In the mid seventies I was still completely enamored with the materialism of musical 'chops', and way into the 'prog' bands of the time...it was a rude shock for people like me to be confronted by the musical/social revolution that we now call Punk. My initial reaction was to consider the punks as "wankers who couldn't play"...over time, and with more exposure to the politics and philosophy behind the 'movement', I began to realize that a lot of the musicians I had been revering as if they were gods were in fact "wankers who could play"...
My opinion of 'Johnny Rotten' made the full transition from disgust to respect the night I saw him perform with PIL at Red Rocks...that band, the show, and Mr. Lydon just blew me away. It's always a good feeling when a part of your mind that was closed suddenly opens up...
And now, on to the 'retort' portion of this post:
"NEVER TRUST A HIPPIE."...
Ouch, Ronn...that smarts! I know what you're getting at, though...but I'd have to say I've met plenty of PUNKS I'd never trust, either.
Just for the record: gimme hippies and punks over WHITE MEN IN BUSINESS SUITS any day...
I didn't get where I am today by being on time...
"Just for the record: gimme hippies and punks over WHITE MEN IN BUSINESS SUITS any day..."
Don't generalize too much there big guy. Some of us resemble that remark. I know I do from time to time.
Don't generalize too much there big guy. Some of us resemble that remark. I know I do from time to time.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
To me, clothes don't matter... if i wear jeans and t-shirts (or sweaters) most of the time, it doesn't mean a guy in a smart suit cannot be my friend. Same goes for tastes in music, or reading, or any kind of tastes. I trust the ones who are worth it in my opinion, whatever they may wear or listen to. I may be a bit biased against some hippies cause the ones i met weren't nice people, but i actually have nothing against them in general...
In any case - happy B-day, mr Lydon!
In any case - happy B-day, mr Lydon!
Nothing will get you dead quicker than being deadly serious about yourself.
Yeah, you're right Brian...I got stung by Ronn's remark and passed the sting along...sorry, bro'.
But here's my question for you (as I have seen a picture of your younger 'persona'): are you a Business Man who used to dress like a Hippie, or a Hippie who now (from time to time) has to dress like a Business Man? There's a big difference in my book...
But here's my question for you (as I have seen a picture of your younger 'persona'): are you a Business Man who used to dress like a Hippie, or a Hippie who now (from time to time) has to dress like a Business Man? There's a big difference in my book...
I didn't get where I am today by being on time...
Sheena: we should be able to have friends of every sort, depending on what they're really like as people and without regard for external appearances.
Having said that, what makes us refer to a business man's uniform as a 'smart' suit? A guy in a suit selling used cars is not 'smarter' than you or me...
Having said that, what makes us refer to a business man's uniform as a 'smart' suit? A guy in a suit selling used cars is not 'smarter' than you or me...
I didn't get where I am today by being on time...
Yeah Dane, a usual play upon words... what is a better compliment for a lady: "You look smart" or "You are smart"?
I just meant a nice, fashionable (and perhaps not a cheap one) suit. I also don't mind what my friend does in his life. Should he be a writer, a musician, a lawyer, an office clerk, a shop assistant, a bricklayer, etc, etc, should he be my age or several decades older/several years younger - if he's a good guy, i trust him... if he's not (in my opinion), i don't.
I just meant a nice, fashionable (and perhaps not a cheap one) suit. I also don't mind what my friend does in his life. Should he be a writer, a musician, a lawyer, an office clerk, a shop assistant, a bricklayer, etc, etc, should he be my age or several decades older/several years younger - if he's a good guy, i trust him... if he's not (in my opinion), i don't.
Nothing will get you dead quicker than being deadly serious about yourself.
Hmmm I am still a musician at heart Dane if that sort of answers your question. Besides I suspect that you have a fairly clear idea what I am all about by now. That's why we get along so well.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
