Guitar stands

stubby · Post by **stubby** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:53 pm

The post on "75th Anniversary 660 future owners" reminded me to post a question I've been meaning to for some time. I recently built a soundproof room (actually it isn't soundproof entirely but it cuts the vast majority of sound within it) in my basement. As it's in the basement, I am concerned with flooding and I would like a stand that will hold my instruments off the ground, about a foot or two. I really like the looks of the stand discussed in the post mentioned above. Any suggestions on something similar I could find that sits further off the ground (maybe even adjustable for height?). I should note that I'm looking for something that would accommodate the cases as I keep the instruments in them when not in use.I know I could build a shelf or something but I like the open, tubed frame kind of concept. The room is small and a fixed shelf would shrink it even further, at least visually.

byu · Post by **byu** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:15 pm

You could purchase that stand and perhaps use something like pvc piping to raise it off the ground further. Then add the casters to the pvc.

Has your basement experienced flooding in the past?

stubby · Post by **stubby** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:04 pm

We had a sewage backup about six years ago but the city replaced the pipes then (they were old, damaged city pipes from the main line leading to our house). It was disgusting though we were lucky as we caught it immediately as it was happening. We are conscientious about maintaining our pipes now too and get them snaked, as a precaution, on a regular schedule.

I was thinking the same thing you're suggesting Bill but wondered if there were any pre-fab "off-the racks..."

clearblue · Post by **clearblue** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:20 am

Wall hangers would be your best bet if you're worried about flooding.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:31 pm

I agree - wall hangers. A variation of that are the ones that swivel so that it can be mounted on a horizontal as well as vertical surface. I have a large bookcase that displays a bunch of guitars with the hangers mounted to shelves as well as the top surface.

On the shelves behind the guitars is my Beatles collection, and you know that can't be bad.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:32 pm

Speaking of soundproofing rooms, there is some discussion of it on "Rampant Recording Techniques » Studio refit " but does anyone have a good "how to" source for a soundproofing novice?

stubby · Post by **stubby** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:43 pm

I'm having a hard time picturing what you're suggesting Kent-could this kind of swivel shelf hold instruments in cases?

bitzerguy · Post by **bitzerguy** » Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:51 pm

I like this one.

http://www.materiauxspecl.com/en/pdf/sonopan.pdf

I saw this stuff at a home show. They built a little room using their product and the two 5/8" thick drywall construction they show here. Then ran a stereo at 120dB inside the room. You couldn't hear it outside once two weather sealed back to back doors were closed.

We did my neighbor's home theater room with this construction technique and you cannot hear the guns and crashes outside the room now. He also used two sealed doors into the room back to back.

I am renovating my studio/playroom with this style construction (and materials). One difference, I have a concrete slab floor - so I am building a floating sub-floor sitting on 1/2" refrigeration equipment mounting cushions (a rubber-cork-rubber sandwich) and then this floor construction technique.

...Dean

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:59 am

Here is a sound deadening system that's being used in my new studio; it's quite a bit less expensive than Sonopan or Acousti-board.

With a 2 x 6 plate, staggered 2 x 4 studs and 4 sheets of 1/4" drywall per side with Green Glue between, the STC is well up in the 60's, with unbelieveable low frequency attenuation.

With standard 2 x 4 walls and 2 1/2" sheets drywall with Green Glue between, it's about STC 59.

I needed that low end kill even more than the typical home theater setup due to the large waves crashing outside.

Green Glue

bitzerguy · Post by **bitzerguy** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:57 am

!!! Great link John. Thanks!
Looks like I will rethink my renovation. If it stops the sound of crashing waves, it'll work just fine for a hobby studio!

...Dean

byu · Post by **byu** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:04 am

I'm building a sound proof room now using QuietRock drywall on staggered 2x3 studs. They make something similer to Green Glue called QuietGlue.

I'm using QuietSeal between the drywall and QuietPutty around junction boxes. The QuietSolution Web site has tons of info on sound proofing including demo videos, measurements & white papers.

It's not cheap stuff but my room has to be sound proof and QuietRock is easier to deal with than mass loaded vinyl.

Here's their site.

Another company that makes similar stuff is Supress.

doctorwho · Post by **doctorwho** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:06 pm

Back on topic, here are some shots of a product I saw at the NAMM show:

The scene reminded me of "Trouble With Tribbles".

jps · Post by **jps** » Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:35 pm