Celestion Vintage 30 vs. Celestion G12H 30

[philco]

It has become known on this forum that the Vintage 30 works well in a Traynor YCV40. I was wondering of the feasibility of installing a Celestion G12H 30 in a YCV40 instead. I hear the G12H 30 has a heavier sounding bottom, but the 30W power rating scares me, which is less than the YCV40 output rating of 40W. The 60W rating of the Vintage 30 gives a 50% cushion. Does anybody have any experience with the G12H 30 with amps beyond 30W of output power?

[philco]

It seems that the Vintage 30 was designed for open backed combos, and the G12H 30 was designed for closed back cabs. Since 4 speakers are usually used in a cab, that gives a 120W rating for the quad, which is reasonable for a head up to 100W. Still, the G12H 30 would work in something like a Roland Blues Cube 30 or a Fender Blues Junior. My YCV40 might possibly fry it. I guess it might work if you always played clean.

[rickenmetal]

The G12H was originally a speaker for bass, the new one is obviously a copy of the original. It is quite normal that it would have more bottom end, although I am not sure it would matter much that it can handle 55 Hz when the lowest E on a guitar is 82 Hz.

I have a Vintage 30 in an open back cabinet and I really hate it, it has way too much top end and no bottom in an open back cabinet. I don't like the clean sound. I don't like the distorted sound. I guess it is the Vintage 30 made in China, but most seem to be these days, and some people have told me they sound fine in a closed back cabinet and have lots of bass. I was actually thinking about exchanging it in my open-back cab for a G12H sometime.

[leftyguitars]

Over four years for a reply, this must be a record!

That reminds me, I have some NOS G12H's in the attic somewhere.

[rickenmetal]

Didn't really look at the date, I guess maybe then they weren't made in China.

But anyways I wanted to comment on them, maybe someone can tell me something. Are you serious about those G12Hs?

[leftyguitars]

I'll have to have a rake around in the attic to see if they are still there, but I know that there were some the last time I looked (about 10 years ago).

[admin]

Peter: This is one of the reasons why the forum changed software and servers last fall. It has allowed us to bring back many archives, as you have noted, even after 4 years.

[leftyguitars]

I have found a pair of G12H 100w (not 30w) 4ohm NOS in the attic.

[jingle_jangle]

Interesting attic, Peter...could you post pictures?

[leftyguitars]

Interesting attic, Peter...could you post pictures?

Of the speakers or of the attic?

[jps]

it is obvious that Peter is asking about the attic!

Any ghosts in there?

[leftyguitars]

This thread seems to be running parallel to the 'Earthquake' thread now. I haven't seen any ghosts in the attic but I have seen spirits in the understairs cupboard (usually in bottles ).

[johnallg]

Ar, ar, ar!!!

While everyone's attention is on speakers, are old Jensen speakers of particular value today? Late 60s vintage out of an old Sears Silvertone bass cab.

[wmthor]

My 76 Deluxe Reverb has an Altec 417-8H speaker and my Traynor YCV-20WR has a Celestion G-12M "Greenback". I've considered swapping the speakers or putting the Altec in the Traynor and then looking for another speaker for the SFDR. But then I wonder if the Altec would even fit in the Traynor.