Some questions about 360/12v64

[NorwegianWood]

I think I read somewhere that Rickebacker changed the vintage toaster specs in 1999. Not sure if I'm right. Is it the same pickups (same impedance?) in a
360/12C63 and my 360/12v64 2000 model ?

I did also see some information earlier regarding modifications involving a capacitor and possibly a push pull blend pot. I can not find back to that info. It was posted somewhere here or in the Rickenbacker forums. Does anybody know links to some nice modifactions that can be made ? I guess the neck PU can be better sounding if a capacitor could be added to make it less muddy ? Perhaps thats whats done with a push/pull blend pot - i.e. disconnecting or connecting the capacitor ?

[deaconblues]

Yes, your 360/12v64 has the same pickups as a 360/12c63. However, certain details like body and headstock shape, fretboard radius, and internal routing are different on the c63.

The push/pull tone knob was added to 4003 bass models a few years back so players could get a more trebley vintage sound (by running the signal through a capacitor) without modification to the electronics. Rickenbacker guitars do not have this feature.

http://www.rickenbacker.com/news_item.a ... ews=recent

[gtburge1]

I think I read somewhere that Rickebacker changed the vintage toaster specs in 1999. Not sure if I'm right. Is it the same pickups (same impedance?) in a
360/12C63 and my 360/12v64 2000 model ?

I did also see some information earlier regarding modifications involving a capacitor and possibly a push pull blend pot. I can not find back to that info. It was posted somewhere here or in the Rickenbacker forums. Does anybody know links to some nice modifactions that can be made ? I guess the neck PU can be better sounding if a capacitor could be added to make it less muddy ? Perhaps thats whats done with a push/pull blend pot - i.e. disconnecting or connecting the capacitor ?

iiipopes tone mod.
Rickenbacker forums-> setup and technical
push/pull on a 320?

I did this mod on my 370/12 with vintage pups
It's great it gives you with the cap or without the cap great tone. He will email you the drawing you need for Guitar.

GTB

[grazioso]

here is simple way to do the 0.0047 cap mod it works for guitar too.
http://www.geocities.com/johnallg/temp/ ... ap-Mod.jpg

[NorwegianWood]

Yes, your 360/12v64 has the same pickups as a 360/12c63. However, certain details like body and headstock shape, fretboard radius, and internal routing are different on the c63.

The push/pull tone knob was added to 4003 bass models a few years back so players could get a more trebley vintage sound (by running the signal through a capacitor) without modification to the electronics. Rickenbacker guitars do not have this feature.

http://www.rickenbacker.com/news_item.a ... ews=recent

Thank you. Nice to know that the C63 and V64 (2000) uses the same pickups. The other differences between C63 and V64 I am aware of
It really sounds amazing and is wery good to play on. I think its more playable than 660/12 once I got used to the small neck.

Btw, I guess 660/12 2004 also uses the same pickups as 360/12v64 2000 then ?

[NorwegianWood]

here is simple way to do the 0.0047 cap mod it works for guitar too.
http://www.geocities.com/johnallg/temp/ ... ap-Mod.jpg

I think 360/12v64 already uses a 0.0047 cap for treble pickup accordning to the wiring:
http://www.rickenbacker.com/pdfs/19519.pdf

[ken_j]

Many of the '90s toasters have a higher impedance/output then the currnent pickups. I am not sure what the cut-off dates are though. I had the higher gain toasters on a '97 360V64 (six string) and loved the sound.

[Ric-360-12FG]

Hmmmmmm... correct me if I'm wrong... But my information is that the 360 V64 was equipped with 12K toasters while the C63 is equipped with 7,4K toasters...

Michael

[NorwegianWood]

Hmmmmmm... correct me if I'm wrong... But my information is that the 360 V64 was equipped with 12K toasters while the C63 is equipped with 7,4K toasters...

Michael

I found some info now. Some sources on the Rickenbacker forums informs that the Vintage Toasters was changed to 7.4-7.5k around 1999.
https://www.rickenbacker.com/forum_view ... gh%20gains?

[guitar-murph]

I believe you can determine if the v64 has the high output or lower output toaster by the type of screws using in the pickup mount. One type has phillips while the other has a regular slotted screw. Check the screws on both of your guitars and if they are the same then I believe you have the 7.4 toasters in both. I'm not sure about the cutoff date for the old toasters, but I have been told that this test will 'tell the tale.'

[grazioso]

1999-2000 it is. you can always use multimeter ... if it is anything over 7.6k it is older toaster there. there is nothing wrong with either of them though. if you have older hotter one just take it down a notch away from the strings that's all that is needed to get the sound going. if you are absolute purist you can unwind it to 8.5k and get the 0.0047 cap inline with bridge pickup and that will sound exactly like 60's rics. if you have modern pickup take it closer to the strings and put there 0.0047 cap for the same effect.

[NorwegianWood]

I believe you can determine if the v64 has the high output or lower output toaster by the type of screws using in the pickup mount. One type has phillips while the other has a regular slotted screw. Check the screws on both of your guitars and if they are the same then I believe you have the 7.4 toasters in both. I'm not sure about the cutoff date for the old toasters, but I have been told that this test will 'tell the tale.'

The screws on the 360/12v64 2000 is the same as on 660/12 2004. Guess its the 7.4k toasters then.

[collin]

I believe you can determine if the v64 has the high output or lower output toaster by the type of screws using in the pickup mount. One type has phillips while the other has a regular slotted screw. Check the screws on both of your guitars and if they are the same then I believe you have the 7.4 toasters in both. I'm not sure about the cutoff date for the old toasters, but I have been told that this test will 'tell the tale.'

The screws on the 360/12v64 2000 is the same as on 660/12 2004. Guess its the 7.4k toasters then.

I wouldn't guage the output purely by the screws. Use a volt meter.

I have seen hgih output toasters with the "wrong" screws etc...and vice versa.

[beatlefreak]

As late as his v64 was made, it most likely does have the 7.4k Toasters. But you're right - The only sure way to know is with an ohmmeter.

[NorwegianWood]

As late as his v64 was made, it most likely does have the 7.4k Toasters. But you're right - The only sure way to know is with an ohmmeter.

I guess I have to disconnect the pickups to measure the DC resistance but I have measured the ohms from the jack plug and the instrument says 5.8k. As the vulume and tone pot is 250k (I presume ?) and wired in paralell the total DC resistance should be quite close to the pickups own DC resistance ?

In theory I would expected a 7.4k DC pickup wired in paralell with two 250k's to be resulting in 7k. Why I measure less is a bit strange.