McGuinn Head Stock Comparison

[37012player]

I've already posted this elsewhere but thought the Byrds fans here might be interested as well.

I have been researching Roger McGuinn's first Rick 12 for a while now. Here we have a comparison of his first 64, his second 66 and two modern 360/12 head stocks.

I understand that the profile was standardised sometime after his first rick was produced in early 65 through to 68.

Si.......

[jimk]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.

JimK

[doctorwho]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting this.

JimK

+1!

I wonder how a 370/12RM headstock compares ... probably the same as the modern-era profiles, I'd guess.

[rick36]

Here's a photo, I think it's like the older '64 - '66. Rickenbacker/John Hall would have the shop drawings...

[deaconblues]

Nah, that's a fat-head.

Here's a '67:

[37012player]

The RM limited Edition Head Stock was very similar if not the same as the V64, and the Japan only V66 360/12 and V67 370/12. Only 12 of each of these Japanese models was ever made, yet I read occasionally that 24 of each was made...incorrectly... based on a discussion I had in Japan a few years ago.

The V67 was basically the RM without standard controls and no signature pick guard.

Some early publicity photos of RM with his signature guitar were actually an early 70's model totally refurbished as a prototype before the RM's came out of the factory and hence have the earlier Low Fat head stock like the 60's models.

Hope this helps,

Si...........

[37012player]

Oh, and one dead give away with the early 12's was that the tuners were not spaced evenly like the current CNC machined re-issues.

RM's first rick 12 is a classic example, with the Octave G being spaced much higher for some reason. Jigs improved and it was all pretty much standardised by 65 through to 68.

Those early rick 12's are all pretty special by virtue of being unique.

Si..

[JakeK]

The RM limited Edition Head Stock was very similar if not the same as the V64, and the Japan only V66 360/12 and V67 370/12. Only 12 of each of these Japanese models was ever made, yet I read occasionally that 24 of each was made...incorrectly... based on a discussion I had in Japan a few years ago.

The V67 was basically the RM without standard controls and no signature pick guard.

Some early publicity photos of RM with his signature guitar were actually an early 70's model totally refurbished as a prototype before the RM's came out of the factory and hence have the earlier Low Fat head stock like the 60's models.

Hope this helps,

Si...........

Wouldn't a Carl Wilson headstock be the same as the 370/12RM, 360/12V64, 360/12V66 and 370/12V67?

[37012player]

Jake,

I think your right,as they are from the same era, but Im not certain.