Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
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Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
Now that's just plain silly price-wise!
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
I think these are made in the Fender custom shop and are meant to compete with the Victoria 518 and other boo-teak Champ copies.paologregorio wrote:Now that's just plain silly price-wise!
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
I can't tell the tonal difference between a hand-wired and a PCB (printed circuit board). Why pay $1k for an amp that isn't even 10 watts?
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
...because watts aren't everything when it comes to tone.JakeK wrote:Why pay $1k for an amp that isn't even 10 watts?
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
hype hype hype.
It sounds alright. It certainly doesn't sound $1000 good.
I'd never pay that much for an amp you can't gig with (though this amp is obviously marketed as a recording special amp).
It sounds alright. It certainly doesn't sound $1000 good.
I'd never pay that much for an amp you can't gig with (though this amp is obviously marketed as a recording special amp).
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
Why couldn't you gig with it?collin wrote:hype hype hype.
It sounds alright. It certainly doesn't sound $1000 good.
I'd never pay that much for an amp you can't gig with (though this amp is obviously marketed as a recording special amp).
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
You couldn't hear it over the drums.octagon wrote:Why couldn't you gig with it?
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Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
And you sure couldn't hear it over my bass!
But sure; you could gig with it at a coffee house or something like that.
But sure; you could gig with it at a coffee house or something like that.
Can we have everything louder than everything else?
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
Mic it and that problem's solved.JakeK wrote: You couldn't hear it over the drums.
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Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
Why buy a reissue when you can get the real deal for the same price?
http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-and-re ... d-reg-1958
Jeffery is spot on in his comment about wattage not equating tone. One of the amps that has been getting the most usage lately on my gigs is a 1995 USA made Fender Pro Jr. I've had the junk components removed from it and a Weber speaker replaced the original, but this thing is 15 watts of blistering tone in a package the size of the tweed Champ; one volume control and one tone control. When paired with my P90 goldtop, it'll hurt you and holds it's own with a Deluxe Reverb. I own a number of vintage Fender amps from a 1959 5E3 Deluxe, a 1966 Super Reverb and a 1966 Deluxe Reverb and the little Pro Jr. delivers the goods!
Don't believe me? It's the amp that being used on the Kurt Crandall clips in the Groove Yard forum and more than held it's own with a 50 watt Vero 4x10 harp amp and a G-K 800RB bass rig. The volume was set at maybe 1/4 of the way up on "Spider In My Stew".
The best usage for a little tweed Champ is in the studio. Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, Joe Perry, Billy Gibbons and many others are huge fans of these and recorded many a classic guitar track with them - Like Richards stated in an old Guitar Player interview , and I'm paraphrasing here, "The biggest tone comes from the smallest amps".
http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-and-re ... d-reg-1958
Jeffery is spot on in his comment about wattage not equating tone. One of the amps that has been getting the most usage lately on my gigs is a 1995 USA made Fender Pro Jr. I've had the junk components removed from it and a Weber speaker replaced the original, but this thing is 15 watts of blistering tone in a package the size of the tweed Champ; one volume control and one tone control. When paired with my P90 goldtop, it'll hurt you and holds it's own with a Deluxe Reverb. I own a number of vintage Fender amps from a 1959 5E3 Deluxe, a 1966 Super Reverb and a 1966 Deluxe Reverb and the little Pro Jr. delivers the goods!
Don't believe me? It's the amp that being used on the Kurt Crandall clips in the Groove Yard forum and more than held it's own with a 50 watt Vero 4x10 harp amp and a G-K 800RB bass rig. The volume was set at maybe 1/4 of the way up on "Spider In My Stew".
The best usage for a little tweed Champ is in the studio. Keith Richards, Eric Clapton, Joe Perry, Billy Gibbons and many others are huge fans of these and recorded many a classic guitar track with them - Like Richards stated in an old Guitar Player interview , and I'm paraphrasing here, "The biggest tone comes from the smallest amps".
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Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
peewee wrote:Why buy a reissue when you can get the real deal for the same price?
http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-and-re ... d-reg-1958
Too bad Elderly won't ship used amps.
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
Ditto!octagon wrote:peewee wrote:Why buy a reissue when you can get the real deal for the same price?
http://www.gbase.com/gear/fender-and-re ... d-reg-1958
Too bad Elderly won't ship used amps.
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Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
JakeK wrote:You couldn't hear it over the drums.octagon wrote:Why couldn't you gig with it?
Yeah, exactly.
I said gig----a coffee house hardly counts. I meant a real gig. (kidding!).
For larger places----rarely are you somewhere that has a PA good or large enough to Mic that tiny amp both for the audience and stage monitors. There simply wouldn't be enough stage volume to hear it over the drums.
Re: Anyone try a Fender hand wired '57 Champ RI amp?
I disagree with that. I've got a Swart Space Tone Reverb that I've been using in the studio lately. My AC30 would rip heads off with the amount of saturation that I've been running it at. The key is how it sounds right in front of the speaker. Smaller amps sound like they're in small boxes to our ears, but if you put a mic up next to it can't tell the difference between them and a larger amp. Unfortunately, I've gotta sell this one very soon because I'm going back to university and don't have room to take it with me.JakeK wrote:Why pay $1k for an amp that isn't even 10 watts?