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jaybyrd
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360/12 on order

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I finally did it! Today an order was placed for my brand new 360/12. I played a Ric for the first time this morning -- a new 330 six string. There was absolutely no comparison. I thought my American strat was smooth. It plays like 7 miles of rough road compared to that Ric!!!

I was told it would take 120 days for Rickenbacker in California to ship. Does that sound about right? I thought since this model is the most popular guitar of its kind in the world (according to the ad anyhow), I shouldn't have to wait for them to make one. Am I wrong?
Nothing compares to the sound of a Rick 12 with a JangleBox and a touch of chorus.
VW

Post by VW »

I ordered a new 370/12 FG w/Vintage pickups about a month ago and was told I wouldn't see it for 4 to 5 months so I think what you were told is probably about right.
VW
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Thanks, VW, for the bad news. I was in hopes that maybe the dealer misunderstood them. At least we each now know someone else in the world can relate to our misery waiting for our Ric's.

This will surely be a long wait after having played my very first Ric this morning. What an experience! I could have literally sat and played it for hours. On the 100 mile drive back home after ordering the 12 string, I decided that I'm going to have to sell my Fender American Strat and get me a 330/6 to match my 360/12! I actually thought when I bought that strat a couple of months ago that it would be the last guitar I would ever want. Foolish boy. I am hooked in a serious way. I can't wait to register mine and send in the photos. Let me know when yours arrives so I can gauge how much longer I will have. Thanks again.
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Post by bruceglaser »

Jaybyrd,

Did you order your 360/12 with toaster pups, or a less available color ( ex. midnight blue ), or are you a lefty? If not, standard high gain equipped models are everywhere in retail stores and on the web. Especially in Fireglo and Mapleglo. Unless you are in a really remote location, or do not trust shipping guitars from any distance, there is no reason at all to wait 5 days let alone 5 months.
VW

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Jaybyrd,
The first "professional" guitar I ever bought was a new 365 Deluxe 6 string around 1965 when I was 15. (I'll do the math for you; I'm a geezer rocker at 51). If anyone's curious, I remember what I paid for it brand new because of the unique price: It was $444.44 with the RIC case. Do some more math and you can see that today's RIC's are cheaper when adjusting for inflation dollars.
I played in a couple of bands over the next six years with only that 365 and to this day do not understand why I ever sold it. (Perhaps getting married and leaving the band scene.) I have never since felt comfortable with any other guitar than a RIC and I know what you mean when you describe your first playing of a Rickenbacker 330.
I do have a pristine '69 ES335 Gibson in Walnut that I like, but I'm seriously thinking of letting it go and replacing it with a 360V64. Just my luck, they quit making that model.

I'm interested in hearing from others who have set up a home studio to trade ideas. I have never recorded any of the original material I have written over the years and would like to do so without having to form another band or buy expensive studio time.
I want to do "professional" overdubbing with the capability of adding various effects etc. so I've put together a dedicated computer for the purpose.
I started with a 700mhz Athlon CPU and made it portable by adding on an attached flat panel monitor and attachable keyboard. (I butchered up an old Compaq Portable III and used the tiltable LCD assembly as well as the detachable keyoard.)
I then installed a fast 30Gb hardrive, the EgoSys WaveTerminal 2496 sound card, and I'm waiting for UPS to deliver my copy of Cakewalk Sonar which allows unlimited overdubbing.
How about anyone else? What are you guys doing for studio quality recording on the cheap?
VW
axel

Post by axel »

VW and Jaybird - first : yes : once you've played on a Ric it is difficult to go back to regular cloned axes... I will never buy anything else - and I've had plenty.
Anyway, VW, about computers for music I can give you some guidelines. I do pro audio and video editing on my Macintosh and just this night, well today, finished a "small" project which still weighs about 7gigs - excluding render files. The one thing you must not sacrifice is :
a) the rotating speed of your disk(s) : 7200t per sec is minimum (cheaper 5400t and here comes trouble).
b) the speed of your bus, whether SCSI and/or ATA : scsi-1, 2 or 3, ata-33, 66, 100 - higher is better but scsi 2 UW is good enough, ata-66 also
c) choose a "scratch" disk which is not the one running your computer ; a system-disk is what it is and should remain as such ; scratch-disk should be on another bus than the internal disk or, if you have a double-channel scsi card, one is for your files and the other left empty and selected in your app as the sole "scratch" disk
c) unless you spend a little doe on a correct sound card, you will quickly find yourself in need of a good preamp to preserve a correct sound - check Digidesign's 'Digi001' (www.digidesign.com) : close to the best value for the money, good preamps, good headroom 'n all.

Also, if you really want "unlimited" overdubbing, 30gig might probably not be enough for very long...

- Now forget about all that and play Image
axel
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and I forgot... l o a d s of RAM - 256Mb is bare minimum. The more overdubs, the more Ram you'll need. 512Mb is ok but add another 256 to that and it starts to be smooth. Depending on how apps use the system resources ; some will also feed from cpu speed - most will benefit from more ram and more ram and encore more ram.
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Bruce,
I ordered it straight from the catalog with no specials. I called the dealer back today to ask him about other customers' experiences. He said about two months ago a guy ordered a C series Ric through him. The factory told him 4 months, but he got it in about 2 weeks. Go figure!
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VW,
We are not far apart in age or experiences. I'm 53 and love to compose and record at home without the headaches of getting a band together or pay for expensive studio time. My recordings are very simplistic, however, in that I only use a 4 track tape recorder and a DR5. I've tried the PC thing, but mine doesn't have the horsepower or the right equipment to produce a decent digital recording. When I get a song recorded I run it through Cakewalk and burn it to a cd. That's about the extent of my recording expertise.

I, too, had a beautiful vintage guitar (Fender telecaster) in the past that I used in a couple of bands back in the 60's that I abandoned for the marriage routine. My rear still has the marks where I kicked myself over and over.
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Post by bruceglaser »

Jaybyrd,

It sounds like you're getting some misinformation from the dealer. The "C" series has not shipped yet, and probably won't for another several months. You may have had to order your 360/12 from this dealer because he had no inventory, but unless you've left a non refundable deposit I would suggest a little research. Unless you're a lefty ( I am), I don't think Rick requires a deposit on orders, someone else here may know. You should not have to capitalize an authorized dealer to provide a standard guitar. Most Sam Ash and Guitar Center stores regularly stock the 330's and 360's ( if you can stand dealing with them ). I was just in the Sam Ash in Manhattan today, and they have about 6 360's 6 & 12 strings hanging in the store. Across the street at 48 St Guitars they had several also. If you're not gun shy about ordering over the phone or web try some of the vendors that sponsor the VoxTalks site. I've gotten excellent prices ( almost 50% off list ) and service from Ed Roman, and he's got an interesting website. edromanguitars.com Try gbase.com Where are you located?
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Post by jaybyrd »

Bruce,
Thanks for the response. I live in Columbia, SC. According to my search, I only found 1 Ric dealer in my state and that is this guy, Phil's Music in Mauldin, SC (near Greenville)100 miles from my home. I spoke with Mars Music in Charlotte, NC and the guy told me it would be several weeks or months depending upon how quickly corporate headquarters decided to move on my order!!! He said he couldn't guarantee anything on the shipping time. I don't really like dealing with Mars, although I have on occasion, but I was desperate to find a dealer near Columbia. There is also a dealer in Augusta, Georgia (about the same distance) but I could never get anyone to answer the phone or either it rang busy. The next closest dealers I could find were all in Atlanta and Raleigh which are too far away for me. So, that left Phil's.

The salesman I spoke with was very friendly and seemed to know a good bit about the Ric's, even though he only had the one (a 330/6) in his inventory. I may have misunderstood him over the phone today when he told me about the 2 week delivery for the other customer. He may have said V instead of C. So, I decided if everyone has to wait a long time, I might as well deal with a person rather than the internet dealers that I know next to nothing about. His prices were cheaper than anything I saw on the net anyway. Before I drove up there, I wrestled with ordering from Music123 or MusiciansFriend from the net, but the shipping poses a problem for me since I work 22 miles from home and I have played musical delivery trucks with UPS before which costs me time and money away from the job.
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Post by bruceglaser »

Jaybyrd,

Looks like you've done what you could locally. I'm sure you'll love the guitar when it eventually arrives. Since you've only played a 330/6, the 360/12 will take some getting used to. It helps if you have thin fingers. You've got twice as many strings in a narrower fret surface due to the binding on the 360's.

By the way, take a look at the websites indoorstorm.com, and the-music-connection.com/ric.htm Both these dealers are in Raleigh, NC. Your neck of the wood comparitively. I bought a 325v59 from Mike Parks at the Music Connection, and a 370 from Indoor Storm. Both were great to deal with. Good luck

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Post by jaybyrd »

Thanks, Bruce. I'll definitely take a look because I have definitely decided to sell my Strat and get a 330/6 (used).
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Post by bruceglaser »

Jaybyrd,

There are a bunch of 330's and 360's including 12 strings on ebay if you're inclined.

Bruce Glaser
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