Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
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Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
This baby is on its way to sunny Australia and I should receive it in a week.
http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/prodima ... 12-Big.jpg
I want to restore it in a staged approach.
A new pickguard will be first along with a Lollar horse shoe pickup. A new Rick horseshoe should be also very fine but I already have one in my 4001v63. I am kind of keen to compare a Lollar with it.
For the toaster, if I cannot find a period correct one in a short timeframe, I am thinking at getting a new one and reduce the number of windings to be around the correct "period correct" impedance.
I am not touching the abalone inlays, they just look too cool...
The holes that will be left by reverting to a correct pickguard are my biggest puzzle. I am very keen to leave the bass in Mapleglo. What would be the best technique to plug the holes, refinish and make sure it is as invisible as possible.
http://www.rocknrollvintage.com/prodima ... 12-Big.jpg
I want to restore it in a staged approach.
A new pickguard will be first along with a Lollar horse shoe pickup. A new Rick horseshoe should be also very fine but I already have one in my 4001v63. I am kind of keen to compare a Lollar with it.
For the toaster, if I cannot find a period correct one in a short timeframe, I am thinking at getting a new one and reduce the number of windings to be around the correct "period correct" impedance.
I am not touching the abalone inlays, they just look too cool...
The holes that will be left by reverting to a correct pickguard are my biggest puzzle. I am very keen to leave the bass in Mapleglo. What would be the best technique to plug the holes, refinish and make sure it is as invisible as possible.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
You might try PC Woody to fill the holes then pait any grain if necessary. The color of the epoxy is very close to that of the maple. It sands easy. Of course I would try it on a scrap piece of wood first. It is availble through Amazon and many other places on the web. I've used this product in the past on many projects with great success.
I see that bass has a V63 tailpiece on it.
I see that bass has a V63 tailpiece on it.
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
A lot of money really with threaded plate for bass, but they do come up quite often, someone here will probably have one etc etc, http://www.ebay.com/itm/221178894785?ss ... 1438.l2649
Oh and edit, welcome to the beautiful world of the Non Skunkers
Oh and edit, welcome to the beautiful world of the Non Skunkers
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Look at that...Seans wrote:A lot of money really with threaded plate for bass, but they do come up quite often, someone here will probably have one etc etc, http://www.ebay.com/itm/221178894785?ss ... 1438.l2649
Oh and edit, welcome to the beautiful world of the Non Skunkers
So this is also correct for a bass?
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Yep, they all shared the 6 pole, the only difference is, if the Toaster was mounted straight to a body and not to a scratch plate they would drill out the threads in the two mounting holes, this one still has the threads so it's from a scratch plate mounted guitar or bass.
I'm not sure on the 68's but around 70 they used a short magnet so the routing didn't have an extra depth in the centre for the poles, someone State side will be online soon, Mark/Tony?.
Edit, just looked in the register all 68's pictured seem to have short pole toasters
I'm not sure on the 68's but around 70 they used a short magnet so the routing didn't have an extra depth in the centre for the poles, someone State side will be online soon, Mark/Tony?.
Edit, just looked in the register all 68's pictured seem to have short pole toasters
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
My friend, this was your 4001 post!!!ken_j wrote:You might try PC Woody to fill the holes then pait any grain if necessary. The color of the epoxy is very close to that of the maple. It sands easy. Of course I would try it on a scrap piece of wood first. It is availble through Amazon and many other places on the web. I've used this product in the past on many projects with great success.
I see that bass has a V63 tailpiece on it.
I will see this as a good omen.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Ain't this place great?Seans wrote:Yep, they all shared the 6 pole, the only difference is, if the Toaster was mounted straight to a body and not to a scratch plate they would drill out the threads in the two mounting holes, this one still has the threads so it's from a scratch plate mounted guitar or bass.
I'm not sure on the 68's but around 70 they used a short magnet so the routing didn't have an extra depth in the centre for the poles, someone State side will be online soon, Mark/Tony?.
Edit, just looked in the register all 68's pictured seem to have short pole toasters
Good pickup about the pole length. I will hold off pressing the buy it now button...
So that mean a new toaster from Rick will not fit the bill either.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Well actually, I had a Long pole toaster in my 70 and clearance was fine. I pulled it and put the original back, as it was outing the balance from the bridge pup.Colonel Sanders wrote:Ain't this place great?Seans wrote:Yep, they all shared the 6 pole, the only difference is, if the Toaster was mounted straight to a body and not to a scratch plate they would drill out the threads in the two mounting holes, this one still has the threads so it's from a scratch plate mounted guitar or bass.
I'm not sure on the 68's but around 70 they used a short magnet so the routing didn't have an extra depth in the centre for the poles, someone State side will be online soon, Mark/Tony?.
Edit, just looked in the register all 68's pictured seem to have short pole toasters
Good pickup about the pole length. I will hold off pressing the buy it now button...
So that mean a new toaster from Rick will not fit the bill either.
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
I got pictures of the neck pick up cavity and looking at these, I think a long pole would be too close of a fit.Seans wrote:
Well actually, I had a Long pole toaster in my 70 and clearance was fine. I pulled it and put the original back, as it was outing the balance from the bridge pup.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Just measured a 66 toaster and from scratchplate to magnet end = 12mm.
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Re: Restoring a "slightly" modified 1968 4001
Thanks, I'll compare that to my two 72 4001 I finally received today. The neck pick up cavity should be fairly similar.Seans wrote:Just measured a 66 toaster and from scratchplate to magnet end = 12mm.
1973 4001 Jetglo
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s
2023 4003 Mapleglo
2022 4005XC Jetglo
1979 MusicMan Stingray
2021 Epiphone Thunderbird
2020 Fender P-Bass American Original 60s