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Yeah, the guy who has this is either unclear as to what he has or is misrepresenting the guitar; he insists the guitar is all original outside of changed tuning keys, but the keys do look fine to my untrained eyes. IIRC, the NS body did show up in late 1964 but it certainly would not have Byrds wiring.
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If the editors of "Guitar Aficionado" are to be trusted, this was Roger's original Rickenbacker 12-string, which was modified in 1966. He had the factory add the third pickup and a compressor, foreshadowing his signature model.marcinkus wrote:It came in 1966.
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This guitar was assembled (not as we see it) in October 1964 (DJxxx), a 360/12....it is Jim (Roger) McGuinn's 1st Rickenbacker 12-string, and the one that nearly all the Byrds' big hits were recorded on.
The custom wiring and middle p/up was installed in February 1966 and given back to McGuinn....2-3 months later it went missing and it was replaced by FF1849, McGuinn's 2nd Byrd (370/12).
The custom wiring and middle p/up was installed in February 1966 and given back to McGuinn....2-3 months later it went missing and it was replaced by FF1849, McGuinn's 2nd Byrd (370/12).
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Great information. Do you know ownes the Guitar now? I think it was stolen at a gig in up state NY.
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It is owned by former Microsoft exec Paul Allen and it's on display at the Experience Music Project in Seattle......bowser2533 wrote:Great information. Do you know ownes the Guitar now? I think it was stolen at a gig in up state NY.
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I posted a pic of that Guitar a few week ago. It was taken at the E M P museum in Seattle. Someone posted that it wasn't the first Ric that Mcguinn owned. Said it was a later one. Probably a 370 with the Byrd wiring?. The pic is in the Byrds Forum.
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No, it's his first Rick. You can match this guitar's wood grain with early pics of The Byrds......The guitar was a stock 360/12 when he bought it, and it remained stock until February 1966 when the guitar was sent to RIC where the wiring was changed per his request along with adding a middle pickup and a new nut.bowser2533 wrote:I posted a pic of that Guitar a few week ago. It was taken at the E M P museum in Seattle. Someone posted that it wasn't the first Ric that Mcguinn owned. Said it was a later one. Probably a 370 with the Byrd wiring?. The pic is in the Byrds Forum.
Before his signature model came out in 1988, he used three of these over the years...this one, one made for him in June '66 and one in 1970....there was also a lightshow 12-string with 3 pickups and slanted frets but it wasn't a main "go to" guitar like the others were.
The mini-toggle switch under the two regular toggles was added by some other than Roger--can't tell you what it does but it's not part of the original circuit.
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Here are the guitars he used during The Byrds' different incarnations:
#1) 1964, modified in Feb. '66.....
#2) June 1966 370/12 Special Model, a replacement for the original.......the slide switch for the Vox Treble Boost was added my McGuinn and not installed by RIC.....
#3) 1970 370/12 Special Model with slightly different wiring and factory high-gain pickups. At some point McGuinn had the peghead slots milled all the way through.....this guitar was also redone by RIC in the early-mid 80's. He still has this one and uses it live from time to time.
#1) 1964, modified in Feb. '66.....
#2) June 1966 370/12 Special Model, a replacement for the original.......the slide switch for the Vox Treble Boost was added my McGuinn and not installed by RIC.....
#3) 1970 370/12 Special Model with slightly different wiring and factory high-gain pickups. At some point McGuinn had the peghead slots milled all the way through.....this guitar was also redone by RIC in the early-mid 80's. He still has this one and uses it live from time to time.
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Interesting thread. It's nice to learn the history of these famous guitars.