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I thought of this idea years ago when handling a container of lanolin based hand cleaner.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/quest ... f-hair-gel
https://od.lk/s/OV8xNzE4MzIyNTlf/JE22642.PDF
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Interesting stuff, for sure.

Oddly enough, I have some familiarity with such so-called "ringing gels". A former company I worked for had acquired a small Michigan-based company called Mediventures, Inc., and one of its drug products under development was called Flogel, a material intended to be used during surgery to prevent or minimize internal scar tissue formation. It contained Poloxamer 407 and was, at room temperatrure, a ringing, non-flowing (solid) gel; strangely, at 5 C, it was a free-flowing liquid, making it a thermoreversible substance as well.
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I found that patent in the examiners' collection at least 20 years ago at the USPTO. I should have copied the whole thing. I'm wondering what they use as the gel in the patent. I can't seem to find a whole copy of that patent. Maybe I could contact an examiner or someone at the USPTO to see if anyone still has those collections. Right now the examiners are all working at home because of the coronavirus.
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Hey John, I did a little digging on Japanese patents/search possibilities, and found the patent through the Japan Patent Office's PlatPat (J-PlatPat) platform.

I will come back provide some detail as to how I figured out how to find/access it.
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Sounds like a cool idea, I wonder how it actually sounds...
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JoeMcMahon I actually ended up doing my final middle school project of the course Physics about this back then. The results (which are however in Dutch) can be found on http://www.wmmusic.nl/pws/. The final thing I ended up building (pictures and schematics are in the PDF, as well as frequency-responses) ended up not working as well as hoped, but it was a very interesting project. You can also listen to a couple of sound samples on that page ('droog' = dry; 'bewerkt' = modified by mixing it with a reverbed version). Enjoy! ;-) – Qqwy May 3 '19
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Interesting! 8) Cool sound.

I am still trying to sort through the steps I used to get to the Japanese patent at the JPlan-Pat website. Sometimes I can find it again, other times, using what I think are the same steps, I can't get to it. :(
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I found two JP22642 patents on the Japanese patent website, but both of those don't seem to be the same patent.
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Public Search Facility reopens to the public May 31
https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-reso ... h-facility

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffGfzcdc8Q

The rest of that Japanese patent will be one of the things I'm looking for when they open to the public again.
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