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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:19 am
by wayang
It is true...along the Front Range, at least. I think mountain winters can get a bit more long and extreme than what we experience here on the sheltered edge of the Great Plains. We even get the occasional 'motorcycle day' in the midst of winter, although the city's insistence on sanding the streets makes these opportunities a bit risky.
Orange County IS the plague...
CMJ is The College Music Journal...every year they sponsor the CMJ festival. For a week in the fall, hundreds of bands from around the country play at dozens of venues around Manhattan. We were there in '99 during a hurricane (can't remember his/her name)...the city became somewhat unpeopled the day it came through; the bridge'n'tunnel crowd cowered in their suburbs. We had a great time...I bought one of those five dollar umbrellas on the street and it folded permanently inside-out on me within the first ten minutes of deploying it...welcome to New York, mofo!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:47 am
by winston
Here in Canada we have fairly new privacy laws that supposedly are meant to shield you from dumb questions like that.
Future Shop and Radio Shack used to have this annoying process of tying you in to your telephone number in their system before taking your payment. That raises my blood pressure.
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:49 am
by heavypet
"Yesterday" annoys the cr@p outta me. Always has.
I can appreciate that it is well crafted. But even as a kid it always cranked my "cheeze" knobs past eleven. bleh.
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:28 am
by wayang
That's not gonna be a very popular opinion, Glenn, but I get where you're coming from. I was always bothered by the line, "Love was such an easy game to play"...on what planet???
Anything can appear 'easy' if one pretends it's a 'game'...just ask that Poppins woman...
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:56 am
by heavypet
Yeah, I know it's a generally beloved song of theirs. Possibly their most popular?
Maybe that's what makes it extra distasteful for me. Maybe if it were played about as often as Wild Honey Pie, it wouldn't grate

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:17 pm
by jingle_jangle
Dane, that line was meant to be I-R-O-N-I-C.
Like D-I-V-O-R-C-E.
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm
by winston
Perhaps the line "Love was such an easy game to play"...was the direct result of multiple choice of groupies and taking adulation for granted.
You know? What happened to the good old days when you had the thrill of the chase and a life long commitment sort of question? Was it not followed by "Now I need a place to hide away"
I think Paul was missing being just an ordinary, everyday person.
Here are the lyrics so you can read them in context. This is a brilliant song by a person obviously at odds with being so famous. Given the fact that he could not go out in public without being mobbed, he writes about the little things in life that we take for granted.
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they’re here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday.
Suddenly, I’m not half the man I used to be,
There’s a shadow hanging over me.
Oh, yesterday came suddenly.
Why she had to go I don’t know she woldn’t say.
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday.
Yesterday, love was such an easy game to play.
Now I need a place to hide away.
Oh, I believe in yesterday.
Mm mm mm mm mm.
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:45 pm
by shamustwin
Mm mm mm mm mm always makes me cry.
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:59 pm
by winston
I think it made Jane Asher cry too
Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:02 pm
by winston
Or was that Christine Keeler? I always get those two mixed up.

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:32 am
by wayang
Brian, you're probably right...the 'easy game' line is most likely derived from the experience of choosing which lucky groupie(s) got a ride to back to the hotel...but I submit that, if that's the case, it should have stated: 'Sex was such an easy game to play'...
Ol' Jesus had some pretty good advice for rich men who miss being ordinary, everyday people: give it all away. Short of that, you're gonna find yourself 'hiding away' in your gigantic country manor or behind the dark glass of your limo...
I tried putting a Camel through the eye of a needle once, but I just wound up with tobacco all over the floor.
And also...thanks for spelling it out, JJ...of course you're right, as (nearly) always...
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:15 pm
by shamustwin
I tend to look at the song as Paul trying to write another song (this time of love lost) to his core audience, young girls, nothing too deep. If subconsciously he was commenting on his fame, so be it. But in his book, at this time in his life he tends to paint a picture of himself as a guy enjoying new fame and easy chicks in swinging London. The love-game comparison wasn't a new concept.
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:29 pm
by jingle_jangle
The "young girls" (15-16) I knew at the time were busy having fun with the "I'm not half the man I used to be" line, and I think we all believed at the time that "love was such an easy game to play".
Anywhoo, both lines are Hallmark card schmaltz sentimentality that plays well in Podunk and Pottstown.
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:02 pm
by studiotwosession
Helen Wheels, perhaps the most annoying Beatles related cut ever.
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:06 pm
by jingle_jangle
Did you have to, Glenn? Now I'm humming it and won't be able to sleep for days...time to plug in the 325 and create some noise competition.