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I run a custom b&w photo lab in Cleveland, Ohio called Labwork. We do international business so Paul could send us his film for processing and printing. We do everything by hand and we do fiberbase printing as well. We are also commercial photographers using the Score Photographers name for that business. Our 35mm cameras are FM2n and we use Hasselblads too. We have not yet gotten into digital, maybe someday.

Paul,
why don't you use a tripod, then you can stop down and get more depth of field. Your photos are great looking and have a style to them partly attributed to the narrow DOF which is cool, but for informational purposes, would greater DOF be better? Since I primarily use a view camera (Ebony 45SU with Schneider and Rodenstock lenses ranging from 58mm to 305mm) I usually make sure everything is nice and sharp, just my style, but with the tilts and swings available I can actually get extremely narrow DOF if I want, which is a popular fashion shooting technique.
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Jeffrey,
That's pretty cool that you run a photo lab, I run a lot of headshots and band promo photos and I'm not really happy with my current processing/printer.
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Jeffrey,
Wow, Labwork is run by you???!!!
I know your fine lab/company 'cause I have most of the 2000-2002 B&W magazines (remember there was an issue with the fabulous Lennon shot?) and saw your pages frequently. I'll seriously consider sending my films to you when I have some "worthy" shots. Does your lab do colour too?

Yes indeed my photos usually have shallower depth of field (I humbly dare not call that a style), and a tripod would surely provide me with maximum DOF in all perspectives. However, as an amateur, my picture taking is literally a spontaneous "in the mood, on the moment" thing that largely depends on odd angles (not easily achievable by a general purpose tripod) and natural indoor lights (too weak for small apertures usually), I opt for capturing the moments with wide apertures and slow shutter speeds, stop breathing and hope that my hands are stable enough during the exposure. And yes, thanks for the advice, I will take some shots with a tripod in the future and see what I can come up with.

Kendall,
Jeffrey's lab is an excellent one. Highly recommended.
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Paul,
Have you seen the April 2003 Issue # 24 of B&W magazine? There is a Spotlight feature on me in it. I have most of the issues of that magazine, I was not too impressed with the technical quality of Gunther's photos unfortunately although it is a great shot of Lennon with his 325. The lab only does b&w processing and printing, we specialize in that. I will e-mail you a PDF file of our pricelist and also to dedgoat. Everything we do is by hand in stainless steel reels and tanks for the roll film processing and Jobo Expert Drums for sheet film up to 8X10. We don't normally do this for customers but a friend of mine has some 11x14 cameras and I process his film in the darkroom just like I would 11x14 fiberbase prints, except of course for the safelights being turned off.
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Jeff,
Thanks for your emails.Image
Please check your mailbox.
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Whoa alls I got is my Olympus D-550 beginners cam.

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Kirk, I have two late 70's 4001's, and on one of them a 79, both pickups are at almost exactly 7.5K and on the other one a 78, the bass pickup is at about 8K with the treble at 7.5K, and they are both very clear basses.
And Paul when I removed the cap from my 72 (bypassed really) it went from a very thin sound to a really full sounding pickup, I was amazed at the difference. With my late 70's there was not that much of a dramatic difference. My 72 and 75 4001's treble pickups sounded identical with the caps in, the late 70's were much more full sounding even with the caps. I never measured the resistance of the 75 and I'm in Perú and my 72 is in the states right now, what are the resistance readings on your treble pickups Paul and Owen? Sérgio what are the normal readings for an early 70's pickup about 5.5K? I liked the sound of my 79 through my SVT with the cap in, I just didn't like it through smaller amps.
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Jared,
Take as many pics as possible with your D-550 and you'll definitely have shots that you like. In fact, a digital camera is super for photo woodshedding. Have fun painting with light!

Bob,
I haven't done any measurement to my pickups but I'll do that one of these days. My '72 treble PU has a full sound with the cap removed, just not as hot as the others of mine. I still think it's small, hence weaker, magnet is a major factor. As far as I know, a bigger (or stronger) magnet does make a pickup sound hotter than one with a smaller magnet when both have the same Ohm reading.

By the way, I really dig the loud and rich sound of my '72 toaster and I believe its location of 1/2" from the neck end, in the imaginery 24th fret position, plays a big part.
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Paul,
Yeah they sound really big next to the neck. I like that old 60's sound of the toasters. My favorite toaster sound is the early Beegees, talk about bottom. "Gotta Get A message to you" etc.
When I was a kid I remember hearing that song, and thinking "wow what a great bass sound that is" my 75 had a high gain in that position, same sort of big full sound, and I like the looks better too. Perfect sound for big amps or big woofers.
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Actually I just got an idea, does anyone know if V63 pickguards will fit a 4003? Also are they still available? Would I have to route out a 4003 for a high gain in that postion, or only for a toaster?
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Hi, Bob. To answer your question, based on the few early 70's 4001 pickups I have measured I guess their typical ohm rating would be in the 5.0-6.0 K range. Towards the late 70's, it would range between 7.5 and 8.5 K. And some time ago I read somewhere (maybe in this Forum) about the ohm rating of the single pickup on a 70's 4000 bass being as low as 4.0 K.
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Sergio,
Wow that is low, especially for a 4000, I wonder what it sounded like? I would think that they would be a little fatter considering that it is the only pickup. How about the 60's horse shoes, have you measured any of them?
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Well, I think that since the 4000 Bass was not fitted with a treble-pass capacitor, its single pickup had a low ohm rating in order to produce a clear sound whilst retaining both adequate output and good low frequency response.
As for 4001 horseshoe pickups, I've never come across one. I guess their ohm rating would be in the 6.0 K bracket.
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My 1968 horseshoe reads 6.18k on my omh meter
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my 60's toaster reads 8.33k and my 2 or 3 year old toaster reads 6.18 ...

I have 3 other toasters installed in basses right now ... But I seem to remember they were in the 7k range ...

high gains can range from 7k to 8k to 11k to 13k and even sometimes 16k ... at least those that I have tested ...
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