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Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:41 am
by beatlefreak
Congrats, Billy.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:32 am
by billydlight
mmmm just played two gigs with the 360/12C63!!! Man oh Man! IT sounds sweet.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:41 am
by doctorwho
billydlight wrote:mmmm just played two gigs with the 360/12C63!!! Man oh Man! IT sounds sweet.
They are super nice, aren't they!

Congrats to all who got one.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:17 pm
by beatlefreak
I waited a long time for the one I ordered to come in, but I've never regretted it.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:23 pm
by billydlight
I got mine from a dealer who had it brand new. Is it improper to discuss what I paid for it? I'm wondering what the people who waited 2 years paid and I'm wondering what the going rate is now.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:35 pm
by BuddyDog
billydlight wrote:I got mine from a dealer who had it brand new. Is it improper to discuss what I paid for it? I'm wondering what the people who waited 2 years paid and I'm wondering what the going rate is now.
Well if you look at eBay completed auctions, they are going for $2700-$3000 used. So if your price was in there, I think you made a good deal. When I was looking for one, a dealer in TX was asking $3350 for a new JG.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:12 pm
by billydlight
Slightly less than $2700, and I traded my old 360V64 for a brand new 350V63/6!! Wahoo!

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:45 am
by audiodrome
What's the major difference, playability-wise, between the 7 1/4" crown radius of the C63 and the 10" crown radius of the V64? Also it was mentioned earlier in this thread that there was a difference in the body shape and the pickguard shape but I can't see it. Is it that the points are a little more rounded on the C63? What should I be looking for?

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Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:17 pm
by beatlefreak
Yes, the points are more roundec on the C63. It also appears that the larger horn is slightly wider. The pickguard on the V64 has a more pronouned concave curve.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:25 pm
by audiodrome
OK - it is very subtle but I see it. Thanks!

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:11 pm
by beatlefreak
The two models are very close appearance wise. Thanks for the excellent side-by-side comparison photo.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:18 pm
by deaconblues
I find a smaller radius more comfortable to play. Many prefer a large radius fretboard because it won't affect string bending, but on a 12-string that wouldn't be much of an issue.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:02 pm
by jps
Another difference is the shape of the pickguard around the neck toaster. The biggest difference, though, is the X-bracing inside the body of the C63.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:06 pm
by libratune
Here's a comparison I did between my 1992 360/12V64 and 2009 360/12C63:

I laid the V64 down on a large sheet of paper and traced the outline of its body. Then placed the C63 on top of the V64 tracing. I attempted to line up the C63 body with the V64 tracing at the bottom end of the body and also at the cutaways around the neck heel. I then traced the C63 body in a different color pencil.

I found that the treble horn on the C63 is approx. 1/4 to 3/8" wider starting at the "waist" and immediately bulging out (for lack of a better term) all the way up the horn and then only tapers back in at the very top point. So the treble horn is definitely wider on the C63.

There are a few things going on with the bass side of the body. The C63 has a 1/8" narrower indentation at the "waist," then the horn (as with the treble side) gets slightly thicker (1/8") going up toward the strap button then tapers off to become slightly thinner (again, by 1/8") toward the top point of the horn.
The body of the C63 is approx. 1/8" wider than the V64 at its widest part.

So there you have it -- at least as respects these two guitars. Not a huge difference, but the bodies of these guitars were definitely not cut from the same template. Here's a side-by-side of the two models:
Compare C63 v V64.JPG
PS The placement of the soundhole is noticeably different on the two guitars, which also contributes to the perception of a difference in shape. The slash on the C63 has a shorter "tail," and is recessed in from the body edge (thus closer to the pickups) slightly more than that of the V64.

Re: 360/12c63

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:09 pm
by jps
libratune wrote:Here's a comparison I did between my 1992 360/23V64 and 2009 360/12C63:
:shock: A 23 string Rick?!!?!?!? :shock: :mrgreen: