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I haven't seen this one here. Does anyone remember this picture and what it meant?

That was a postcard-sized photo included in the first batches of the Imagine album. It was a dig at Paul who had appeared on the 'Ram' album cover holding a Ram (funnily enough) in a similar fashion on his farm.

Just Lennon being petty, bitter, twisted etc. Ironic really that Lennon's Imagine album was an over-produced hotch-potch of half-baked ideas (like the title song itself, well over-blown in popular opinion - IMHO), while McCartney's Ram album is a little gem, overflowing with inventiveness and originality (again IMHO).

Hmmm...taking sides, are we?

Well, I'm on the other side.

Hmm, I thought it was some strange reference to Pink Floyd...

jingle_jangle wrote:Hmmm...taking sides, are we?

Well, I'm on the other side.

I believe I'll join you.

jingle_jangle wrote:Hmmm...taking sides, are we?

Well, I'm on the other side.

Don't get me wrong, as far as Beatles solo albums go, 'John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band' still towers head and shoulders above all the rest - a stunning record. So it was all the more galling to follow that with the horrendous 'Imagine'.

I'm a Lennon fan and and a McCartney fan, but sometimes Lennon's reputation as the 'real creative one' just doesn't hold up, and some of McCartney's 'ignored' albums are relegated to a footnote in Beatles' history - unfairly.

I'm afraid that 40 odd years has not dimmed the sheer disappointment felt when eagerly putting the new Imagine album on the turntable and thinking 'What the F......?? Who is this imposter??'

I'm on the other side...Plastic Ono Band was a moment frozen in time, but so was Imagine.

Imagine just may be the single greatest solo song JL ever performed. It's also (in my mind) a great justification for atheism and Man determining his own destiny.

Too bad it ignores testosterone as a factor in our own tragic conduct in caretaking our planet and our own human race.

(Steps down from battered soapbox...)

jingle_jangle wrote:(Steps down from battered soapbox...)

Ah, there is a God!

Has anyone else seen 'Nowhere Boy'? I really enjoyed, its much truer to reality that 'Back Beat' was in my opinion.

There is a "Nowhere Boy" thread...

SamBailler wrote:Don't get me wrong, as far as Beatles solo albums go, 'John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band' still towers head and shoulders above all the rest - a stunning record.'

My vote goes to George Harrison's 'All Things Must Pass'.

Clint wrote:

SamBailler wrote:Don't get me wrong, as far as Beatles solo albums go, 'John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band' still towers head and shoulders above all the rest - a stunning record.'

My vote goes to George Harrison's 'All Things Must Pass'.

+100!

I agree. I think George was the outstanding one in the first few years post-breakup.

SamBailler wrote:That was a postcard-sized photo included in the first batches of the Imagine album. It was a dig at Paul who had appeared on the 'Ram' album cover holding a Ram (funnily enough) in a similar fashion on his farm.

Just Lennon being petty, bitter, twisted etc. Ironic really that Lennon's Imagine album was an over-produced hotch-potch of half-baked ideas (like the title song itself, well over-blown in popular opinion - IMHO), while McCartney's Ram album is a little gem, overflowing with inventiveness and originality (again IMHO).

+1

SamBailler wrote:That was a postcard-sized photo included in the first batches of the Imagine album. It was a dig at Paul who had appeared on the 'Ram' album cover holding a Ram (funnily enough) in a similar fashion on his farm.

Just Lennon being petty, bitter, twisted etc. Ironic really that Lennon's Imagine album was an over-produced hotch-potch of half-baked ideas (like the title song itself, well over-blown in popular opinion - IMHO), while McCartney's Ram album is a little gem, overflowing with inventiveness and originality (again IMHO).

While I think Ram is the best record McCartney did post-Beatles (yes, of all of them), Imagine has some gems of its own. Crippled Inside, How Do You Sleep, and the anthem of my perception of life, Gimme Some Truth, are brilliantly executed in my mind (thanks in large part to NIcky Hopkins). The title track is, however, just a trifle in my book. Good words, decent piano; bottom line: boring. I change the station when Imagine comes on the radio.

So, I like them both, albeit with pettiness exuding from too many pores all at once.