Sort of disappointed with Ric.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:40 pm

As soon as the big record companies kill themselves off the whole business can recreate itself. The sooner the better.
Unfortunately, capitalism breeds a pretty strong survival instinct.
I guess that makes me a raving liberal of sorts.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:42 pm

Artists have always had to walk the line between art and commerce. Most who ignore commerce, starve. Music is a commercial business. The trick is to satisfy yourself as to your message and its communication, and still attract enough of the Unwashed Masses to make a living doing it.

IMO ****=money and lots of it.

Lowest common denominator, etc.

What this has to do with Ken's angst is pretty distant, though.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:45 pm

Just raving, that's all

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:46 pm

No I said had I come back to California, I was offered a job by Brian Carmen because I begged him[to death] to work there, went home for my brothers wedding and never returned.I assume it was customer service or sweeping floor's didn't matter to me at the time.

I still have his card and remember calling him to tell him I wasn't going to return to CA got that card somewhere tan with Ric on it in brown I think.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:47 pm

All I really need is for the 4004Cii5 to go back into production & the new bridge to come out.
I'm happy with what a Rick is, & what it isn't I can easily do without.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:48 pm

14 pages & 140+ posts in less than 2 days must be some kind of a record, Ken!

86kubicki · Post by **86kubicki** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:54 pm

FACT: never make sweeping generalizations.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:58 pm

This thread is not one big complaint.

I wish I could run Ric for one week and produce what I want,because its frustrating to have to wait for products you don't even know will ever come out.

The 4003 for example pretty much has stayed the same since 82-85 the changes to it I would like to see never seem to take place, maybe someday.

But at this rate Ill be to old to notice.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:08 pm

There would just be fewer of us, since Ricks would be harder to discover/find. I'd still own as many as my credit cards will allow (3)!

It would have taken longer before I saw or heard one, but it would still happen eventually.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:15 pm

Paul McCartney, was my idol I wanted to play bass because of him and a Ric. because thats what he played.

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:15 pm

Hmmm I'm not so sure that I am in agreement with that statement Ken. Even though you may choose to dismiss my views since I was and still am a lead guitarist. I picked up a Jazz bass in the late 60's to record with and to sort out bass parts for my original material.

All my "bass heroes" if you will were playing P basses. I wanted to have a different sound when I played bass. That's when I looked into what it was that Entwhistle and Squire were playing. Their basses punched through a mix and in fact had the very cool sound that I was after. Ever since my investigation and subsequent love of that sound my bass players for one reason or another have all played Rics. As do I.

I now only own one bass. It is my 1976 4001. I am very happy with it. I also do concede that I no longer make a living playing music. But I was considered to be a professional musician in my day. I was signed with a major Canadian label. The same label in fact that The Guess Who were signed to at the time.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:15 pm

True, Ken. But that's a very narrow and I daresay narcississtic viewpoint. Others want other things. Still others go out and roll their own, whch is what keeps guys like Dale fortune and me busy.

If I don't obsess, I don't get frustrated. If I don't get frustrated, I don't complain.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:21 pm

"That's when I looked into what it was that Entwhistle and Squire were playing. Their basses punched through a mix and in fact had the very cool sound that I was after."

So Brian, if Ric's had not made it into the hands of Entwhistle and squire you would not have picked up a Ric.

Right maybe?

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:24 pm

You are correct on that yes. But the fact is I played bass long before I realised that a Ric was such a great bass to play.

thinneckrick · Post by **thinneckrick** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:35 pm

Paul played hoffner before ricks. Wich is really what he is best known for. geddy also played a modded p bass early on live alot as well. fact is i could go on all night about who played what bass when. it is by coincidence only that our bass heros played what they played and were stereo typed with. I dont give a rats *** if your playing Teiscos , fenders , hagstroms, ricks , gibsons . e.t.c. Quality , availability ,value and tone is what makes a bass.it makes me sick that people charge so much for vintage fenders now . The last two i had were complete dogs and they cost a fortune. I just got a fender 72 geddy (lol) reissue that is a better bass by far than my last three vintage pieces. you can say what you want about the star factor but i believe a good bass speaks for itself.