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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 7:50 pm
by simer4001
I think Randy maybe correct. Everything from SPLHCB was the same. (except the UK EP of MMT). Regarding United Artists, didn't they release the original "Let it Be Album? I believe they did and that is the reason the Apple on the Label is red and not green. I'll have to double check.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 1:11 pm
by Scastles
Only one album was released on UA, the U.S. version of A Hard Day's Night, the rest, in the U.S., were either Capitol or Apple.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:35 pm
by simer4001
Of course it was released on Apple, but I believe it was distributed by UA, which is twhy the Apple label is red. Even though the White Album an beyond were released on Apple, they were still distributed through Capitol in th US except for LIB. I know I have something that says that, I'll have to go hunting for it.

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:47 pm
by revolver
>>>Does anyone except a few 'monophiles' REALLY want to hear the drums on one side of the mix?<<<

Sorry Steve but if drums are on one side of the mix then your listening to a stereo mix. Mono would have the same program coming out both sides.

The Beatles were very involved in the mono mixes of their records. Very often they would leave the stereo mixes for the engineer to do after they went home. This is more true of Rubber Soul, Revolver and Pepper.

The mono mixes can differ greatly from stereo mixes of the same album.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 12:57 pm
by RutleDirk
Wow.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:28 pm
by rictified
The old stereo mixes aren't really mixed unless they recorded two track and then mixed down to one track, they only had two and three track machines in those days, they mixed those down to mono. The old stereo isn't real stereo, they would throw a bunch of reverb usually in with it.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:44 pm
by Scastles
Three track, Bob?

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:34 am
by rictified
Yeah they had three track machines. "Kind of Blue" Miles Davis has a blurb about it on the back of the reissue CD. I was a little surprised too. It was remixed on an old tube three track machine "an old Presto just much like the one used for the original recordings" It was recorded in March on 1959.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:03 am
by Scastles
Yeah, I did a little checking on it as well and it seems Columbia used it quite a bit with thier jazz artists, recording both a 3 track and mono version at the same time and on occasion, taking the 3 track version and mixing it down to two...would have never thought. Don't know if the Beatles ever used it or even had access to such equipment. I think early it was two track and by the mid 60's, four track.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 7:11 am
by rictified
I love the early real stereo recordings such as the Monk stuff done in late 57 early 58, you can imagine the room because you can actually hear it.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:00 pm
by randy_malone
The Hollywood Bowl concerts were recorded in 3 track. When George Martin went to master them in the late 70's he had trouble finding a 3 track machine to play them back on.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:47 pm
by rictified
The late 70's and 80's were a time whan everything old and tube was thought to be out of date and obsolete, things like that are probably more plentiful today than back then as it is restored nowadays instead of gathering dust in the spare room of some studio. Old analog equipment in general has enjoyed a big resurgence in the past ten years, McIntosh again makes tube power amps etc. tubes are easy to find today, even LP's are sold again, it was all a false alarm folks.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:32 pm
by expomick
Whew! (kids, you can get out from under the desks now...)

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:03 pm
by rictified
Class.. class.. CLASS... SHUTUP!!!

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:53 pm
by RutleDirk
I always thought the "false start" on I'm Looking Through You was an edit, made up of pieces of the actual intro.

I've heard three released versions, and each has a different intro. The original USA version has two consecutive "false starts", while the UK version has none. IIRC, the version from the German release has the first "false start," but not the second.