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Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:02 pm
by porge
Hey Karl,

I don't totally disagree. My experience with the Selmer indicated to me with fresh speakers, it would have sounded a bit tighter. It certainly wasn't loud... no where near the dB's my '65 AC-30TB would pump, but it would certainly have the dirt needed to do that tone. I still think it could go either way ampwise - it sounds not unlike a close miked tube amp running hard to me, but it's certainly the esquire...

What does Babiuk say in 'Beatles Gear' on this one? And where did he get his info?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:20 pm
by karl_teten
Andy's book say's that solos for 'Good Morning' and 'Mr' Kite' were recorded the day the photo was taken of Paul seen with the Esquire and Selmer 50.

His Casino is leaning on the Selmer which indicates he was using that guitar too.

I would also say the studio was full of other amps as well to use (Vox and Fender).

It is a cool photo that should not be taken as fact as to what was actually used on which particular song.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:04 pm
by glass_onion
hey what does dimed mean? Also if he was using pedals what would they have been?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:20 pm
by porge
Hey Karl: I agree on the photo not being taken as fact - and I think we're both suggesting that we base our "ideas" on aural evidence. In fact, I just tried it through my cream '64 Bassman with my '52 tele, and it's pretty close ;-)!

Hey Harry: Dimed refers to controls being turned to '10' (please...no Tufnel gags)

If using a pedal, I remember reading their may have been a Vox Tonebender and a Maestro may have been present in the studio from time to time (probably the Babiuk book again). If it is a tonebender, it sounds a bunch different to mine (a MkII Pro)

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:30 pm
by rictified
Turning up a tube amp to the point where it distorts sounds infinitely better than SS distortion boxes IMHO.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:41 pm
by porge
No arguments here - but it comes down to a taste issue..do you like fuzz or distortion? I like 'em both - my tonebender is a crazy sound - but the dynamics and warmth of valves glowin' can't be beaten!

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:34 am
by teeder
I think you guys are missing the obvious.
Look at the picture Stan posted.
It's because Paul played right handed on that day!Image

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:40 am
by teeder
Another thing.
If the amp doesn't distort easily, and Paul didn't use a pedal, it could have been distorted at the mixer.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:44 am
by Scastles
The photo gives you an idea of Paul's dexterity. No wonder the talent. He could play either way. Image

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:26 am
by bigbajo60
Hey folks... it could be me, but I think it's the photo that's turned around.

Look closely at the orientation of certain features on the guitars, and at the text accompanying the pic.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:38 am
by randyz
And look at the backwards 'Selmer' script on the wrong side of the speaker grille...

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:47 am
by rictified
I think that last clue is very significant, you guys might be on to something there.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:49 am
by rictified
Something else, he's also playing a left handed guitar upside down, very strange.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:52 am
by Scastles
....and I scanned the pic so it came out....

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:53 am
by rictified
another clue, hmmm?