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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:46 pm
by brammy
As has been said before, never underestimate the influence of George Martin to the Beatles recordings, and I would thing that influence would extend to George's solos.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:54 pm
by rictified
I don't think they would have been the band they were without all of them including George Martin.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:09 pm
by jonpaul
Bob, I agree totally. I truly believe that their huge success was based on all the components each individual brought to the group. In my mind one of the biggest things they had going for them was that their personalities seemed to blend well together. That is so very important when you work together as much as they did, especially during the early years when they were working their arses off trying to get established. Obviously many years later the relationships broke down and , well the rest is Beatle break-up history.
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:19 pm
by joepee
Face it, guys (and girls,) they were one of the first GROUPS. Period.
They weren't "Ivan and the Sabres," or "Vinny and the Ginnies." No font man. They were "The Beatles."
I don't think anyone had brought the concept of a rock'n roll GROUP to the forefront before them. Think about it...Individually cool, but BETTER altogether.
My 2 cents.
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:30 pm
by brammy
Yup... Paul has talked about that and how the "group" approach was one of the things that helped them stand out from your average "Rory Storm and the Hurricanes" front-man dominated band.
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:07 pm
by jwilli
Word is that it has recently been found and is in the possession of Nick Thiel of Voxtalks.com. I believe that he's trying to get it back to the Harrisons.
"George playing the last Beatles' concert in Candlestick Park Aug 29th 1966. This guitar (360 "new" style) was stolen shortly after this performance. It has not been found yet....... I wonder if George preferred this styling to the older 360 (ie: 330) style."
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:47 pm
by Scastles
Is there much to elaborate on the 360, John, like where it has been? Or just how Nick got a hold of it? Or did it just sort of drift his way?
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:54 pm
by roadrunners
Get it back to them.....but at what cost....Either way (even it dosent get back to them) he wins.....on one hand he could keep the guitar.....and own that guitar....on the other hand....if he gave it back maybe he could have the harrisons agree to be helpful sources in the book he is rumored to have been writing
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:28 pm
by joepee
I hope Nick gets a hold of it! I know he'll return it!!!!
Peter and Nick are the keepers of the flame (although a bit younger than me), they are of the few who have kept their forumns pure to those who love all that is true to the values WE grew up with.
Did I end that sentence with a preposition? Pure of heart. Period.
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:29 pm
by brammy
I would think that this particular item would have to be considered pretty low down on the scale of Beatle guitars. After all, I think George only played it for a few gigs (if that)..... this is the one he was give at the press conference in Cincinatti a bit earlier in the tour. (John's comment at the time was something like "so dont I get one too?")
So my message to Nick Thiel of Voxtalks is this.... forget the Harrisons, give it to me!
I too wonder where it has been all these years. We may never find out as it was likely in the hands of the thief.
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:43 am
by wayang
Kent...how do we know John didn't take it? He had plenty of opportunities, and you may have pinpointed a motive in your posting...
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:31 pm
by rick12dr
The press conference was in Minneapolis.For those who moght care about this bit of related minutiae,
the local store in Mpls. that gave George the roundtop 360-12, B-Sharp Music, burned to the ground, along with a bunch of other connected bldgs.on the block it was on a couple weeks back. B-Sharp was THE store all the big local bands shopped at, and the place you could just bug your little teenage eyeballs out in, looking at all the Rickenbackers, Gretsches, Hofners, Gibsons, and Fenders.The mid 60s were a very happening time to be around, catching it all first hand.The store was known for quite a collection of local and national celebrity photos, many autographed by the musicians.Truly the end of an era here, though in recent years, B-Sharp was a shadow of what they were in the 60s, driven by the British invasion, surf, and Motown.RIP....